Linky: https://archive.is/bqfe6 and https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/08/why-progressives-should-actually-want-more-police-surveillance.html

The whole article is smuglord and maybe-later-kiddo

  • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    your name, face, age, money in your bank account

    Every developed country has this info on it's citizenry, heck most developing countries these days do to. You're arguing basic bureaucracy is totalitarian.

    where you spend your time, where you have been to, etc.

    And most countries have some means of keeping track of this too if they suspect you're guilty of a crime. Again, describing this as some unique "evil" makes no sense, any sort of state administration does this, you have to prove it's frequently being deployed in a extremely malicious way before you can argue any state is more "authoritarian" or whatever than any other.

      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        Okay I take it you're an anarchist then.

        Fine, but then you really shouldn't be focusing on China. The US is just as guilty of this, more so I'd argue, especially if we're not just arguing domestically. Whatever country you're from is also guilty of this. Every country is.

          • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            The things you listed are so mundane it seems totally asinine to focus your criticism on China. You can literally say this about fucking Andorra 🇦🇩

            It's like if you said you hated Bob but when I asked you why you listened a bunch of flaws most humans have and when I point that out to you, you retort "well I hate most people". Okay, why are we discussing Bob then?

              • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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                1 month ago

                Because there's already an entire media empire dedicated to shitting on Bob. One person says something mildly positive about Bob yet you feel the need to jump in and reiterate the shit the media already tells us despite it being totally pointless.

                I'm trying to get you to question whether you ACTUALLY hate all states equally or if certain media forces have gotten you to focus needless ire towards particular ones while giving only token criticisms of others.

                    • Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt [he/him, they/them]
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                      1 month ago

                      And criticisms of the west focus on real shit we're doing. Like Soviet propaganda was just, "look at what they're doing, its bad". Whereas our propaganda has to make shit up. Chinas criticisms of the west are far more likely to be real than ours of them

                      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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                        1 month ago

                        Honestly most of the news that gets posted here is from western sources anyway, the evidence the west is bad is so strong even western media can't really hide it. Obscuring it really relies on insisting other people are worse.

                  • hello_hello [comrade/them]
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                    1 month ago

                    chinese state media empire that shits on the west,

                    CGTN is communizing the poor western children and their colonial subjects. powercry-2

                  • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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                    1 month ago

                    there is also the chinese state media empire that shits on the west

                    Who gives a fuck, cry like more of a lib about it

                    Nothing brings me greater pleasure than the knowledge that, barring the west starting nuclear war, China is just going to advance more and more exponentially every year and folks like you are just gonna have to invent new ways to mald over it.

                    some-controversy

                    • DOPESMOKERDENG [they/them]A
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                      1 month ago

                      Tbh it's all standard capital-L Libertarian fare, I've seen too many unironic uses of "stat[e]ism" in the wild to even count