• gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    For speech to be libel, it has to be false. However, medical records are private. Would Khelif have to forfeit her medical privacy to prove that their claims are false and therefore libelous? This seems confusing and I doubt she'd be willing to publish a DNA or testosterone test as she didn't go to the CAS after her '23 ban. Also, where's Lin in all of this? I'm surprised she wasn't the main target. None of this makes sense and I think the more I learn the less I'll understand.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 months ago

      For speech to be libel, it has to be false.

      This doesn't sound a case of libel, you can harass someone someone without using false statements so I'm not sure it would be relevant.

      This seems confusing and I doubt she'd be willing to publish a DNA or testosterone test as she didn't go to the CAS after her '23 ban.

      The organization that gave her the ban is no longer recognized by the IOC or CAS, so again not really relevant. Not really relevant either way, if you get false claims made against you by a corrupt organization you're not obligated to go after them privately or legally. Like I'm sorry, I'm not taking any claims by the IBA seriously.

      • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        As in to regain the ability to fight in IBA sanctioned matches. She did publish an appeal at the time of her ban, and the IBA was recognized but she withdrew the appeal.

    • flan [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      this seems to be a criminal cyber harassment case and not a libel case

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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      3 months ago

      Why wouldn't the burden of proof be on Musk, Dawkins, Raichik, and Rowling to prove they had a compelling reason to make the claim, aside from just vibes?

      I only saw the Dawkins tweet, he was very specific and certain about his level of evidence, so much to use the term "undisputed".

      Otherwise there's a chilling effect where women are all relentlessly bullied online until they publicize their medical records to prove they don't have abortions or alopecia or osteogelasia liquifaciens or w/e the new fearmongering is that week.

      • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        This is apparently a cyberbullying thing, not a libel thing. So after reading the French harassment laws, it doesn't matter if you said something entirely true or not. It just matters if the harassment is repeated and caused a decline in health and that you did it more than once. So Khelif doesn't need to prove anything, other than mean tweets made her sad.

        On another note, I'm shocked that France has a law that says if you post more than one mean tweet about a politician you can go to prison for 3 years. france-cool