Tyrion? Yeah. Tyrion is very whitewashed in the show with many of his flaws from the books removed to be more of an explicitly heroic character.
Joffrey? No. He's somewhat flanderized in the show, though I think part of that is Jack Gleason just being that good at acting that he makes him more hateable than ever. But monsterous acts that dont happen in the books happen in the show. And the sympathetic background of him being a product of abuse isnt really gone into as much in the show.
Not Tyrion, Joffrey. A lot of people talking about him being a monster in the book got cut in the show just as most of his random acts of madness and cruelty, they left only those that have direct impact on the what remained of the plot in show. He also had a moment of two where he came in close distance to touching the grass to which he didn't came close even if we count in AU in the book. And the only act of random cruelty they added in the show was to murder the most boring and needless filler character which actually greatly improved the show.
Also i never said he was sympathetic, he wasn't. Just in the show he was only 75% of crazy monster he was in book, so maybe better words would be "not as horrible" than "more positively".
About Gleeson... i don't know. He played him great, but his appearance was all wrong, he supposed to look and keep the official behaviour like prince charming from the fairytale (at least when he was watched over, and it wasn't just Sansa opinion), though even short acquantaince with him shattered this illusion fast. But in the show he even looked like the inbred maniac he was.
Yeah that was the one. I think I named the wrong quippy smirking murderfucker character that time.
And imagine that in show he's portrayed somewhat more positively than in books.
Tyrion? Yeah. Tyrion is very whitewashed in the show with many of his flaws from the books removed to be more of an explicitly heroic character.
Joffrey? No. He's somewhat flanderized in the show, though I think part of that is Jack Gleason just being that good at acting that he makes him more hateable than ever. But monsterous acts that dont happen in the books happen in the show. And the sympathetic background of him being a product of abuse isnt really gone into as much in the show.
Not Tyrion, Joffrey. A lot of people talking about him being a monster in the book got cut in the show just as most of his random acts of madness and cruelty, they left only those that have direct impact on the what remained of the plot in show. He also had a moment of two where he came in close distance to touching the grass to which he didn't came close even if we count in AU in the book. And the only act of random cruelty they added in the show was to murder the most boring and needless filler character which actually greatly improved the show.
Also i never said he was sympathetic, he wasn't. Just in the show he was only 75% of crazy monster he was in book, so maybe better words would be "not as horrible" than "more positively".
About Gleeson... i don't know. He played him great, but his appearance was all wrong, he supposed to look and keep the official behaviour like prince charming from the fairytale (at least when he was watched over, and it wasn't just Sansa opinion), though even short acquantaince with him shattered this illusion fast. But in the show he even looked like the inbred maniac he was.
The fact that Robert beat and neglected him and Cersei is... Cersei and he's still a child did give me some degree of sympathy for him tbh.
I agree that Gleason wasnt book accurate in that way, but he did effectivly make him more hateable I think.