• Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    It was interesting as someone who was into The Hobbit long before the Lord of the Rings trilogy was released. I grew up with the 1977 animation like a lot of kids my age. Wood elves were purple, orcs had two throats, and dragons had dog faces and cat eyes.

    I never saw it growing up, but for many children, Aragorn/Strider looked like this:

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    So anywho, LotR being Norse/Celtic analogous was new when the Jackson films came out. This doesn't even get into the artwork done by people like John Blanche, Ian Miller, or Frank Frazetta.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      20 days ago

      I grew up with the 1977 animation like a lot of kids my age. Wood elves were purple, orcs had two throats, and dragons had dog faces and cat eyes

      As they were meant to lol. I actually just rewatched it for the first time in years last night!

      LotR being Norse/Celtic analogous was new when the Jackson films came out

      Yeah the whole reactionary "Men of the West" shit didn't to my knowledge exist before the films. Along with the rest of the Viking obsessed reactionary thing in the mainstream

      • huf [he/him]
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        19 days ago

        i dunno what you mean, men of the west is just english for dunedain. in his conceit of translating the book from the original westron, the toponymy around bree was always meant to have celtic vibes and the rohirrim were always meant to have anglo-saxon vibes.

        the dwarves had gothic-sounding names (in english translation) because they took those names from people related to the rohirrim, and since the rohirrim were getting anglo-saxon-coded, these guys got a related gothic-coding.

        and there were always nazis who liked the books and liked to read their own shit into it.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      The Rankin/Bass animated films are still pretty great. The songs slap too.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIw5Sx_kAU

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      Didn't Frodo or Samwise, forgot which, have a dream in the Return of the King Rankin/Bass animated movie where the ring was destroyed, all was well, and one of the happy moments showed a traveling goblin/orc smiling and waving at them? goblin-dont-care

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          20 days ago

          Rankin/Bass seemed to have a subtly kinder interpretation of goblins/orcs than Tolkien did, overall, or at least granted that kindness to the hobbits' imagination.