• StalinStan [none/use name]
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    6 days ago

    I feel like mad still applies but this time we don't have the trust worthy ussr. Like, they multiple times didn't shoot when it woudl ahve been justified. Modern Russia would absolutely would press the button

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      6 days ago

      Yeah, the situation is a lot more volatile today. I watched this interview with a prof at MIT researching nuclear proliferation, and what he says is absolutely harrowing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH7LT1bIdpY

    • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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      6 days ago

      The fact that it took Putin years of naivety to finally come to terms that war with NATO is inevitable, was one of the primary reasons that the West continues to escalate and repeatedly calls Russia’s bluff, because they knew that Putin is too soft to hit back despite the rhetoric of crossing the “red line”.

      Just look at how soft Russia has handled Ukraine (compared to Israel in Gaza) and how it continues to send energy to Europe and uranium to the US, literally the enemies arming Ukraine to kill Russians, despite under the world’s greatest sanctions.

      Stalin, on the other hand, would absolutely push the button. We know that Mao totally would.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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        6 days ago

        Stalin, on the other hand, would absolutely push the button

        No he wouldn't. History shows us he values humanity moreso than acts of suicidal bravado.

        • xiaohongshu [none/use name]
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          6 days ago

          But it isn’t suicidal bravado? Even Fidel nearly pushed the button during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The world has been very lucky that he didn’t, and it even scared JFK into rethinking the entire nuclear escalation with the USSR. There is a reason why a nuclear-armed US dared not fuck with Stalin, Mao and Fidel.

          • barrbaric [he/him]
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            6 days ago

            It's worth noting that Fidel couldn't have pressed the button even if he wanted to, because the nukes were under the direct control of the USSR. At one point he did sendt a telegram to Khrushchev saying to launch the nukes if the US invaded Cuba, and IIRC Robert MacNamara later recounted that Fidel told him he would have approved of the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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            6 days ago

            It is suicidal bravado as evidence of your own comment of the suicidal bravado of Fidel's willingness to plunge the world into nuclear hellfire were he in charge of nuclear armaments and not the Soviet Union.

    • Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml
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      6 days ago

      Yeah Putin doesn’t have much time left on this earth. I think he is going to ruin it for the rest of us on his way out.

      • InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]
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        6 days ago

        The United States Empire doesn't have much time left on this earth. I think they are already into the process of ruining it for the rest of us on their way out.

      • StalinStan [none/use name]
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        6 days ago

        I mean the winning play is always to wait out the US. Whatever he ends up doing to destroy the US is a good in a global context. Just like, it would suck to have to be in the cool part of the history book