To make solar power viable, we need a solution for overnight energy storage.

Batteries are complicated.

Do you know what isn't? Water go up. stonks-up

    • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      you can use saltwater for it though, doesn't need to be fresh water or treated in any way, just a physical medium to make turbine go brrr

      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        Machinery and saltwater generally don't mix very well. And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

        • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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          3 months ago

          yeah but in this case it's just a pipe and a turbine it's gotta make move

          And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

          water tanks tho

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Saltwater damages turbine blades very fast. Using saltwater would require some very different engineering for the turbine blades, which might not be worth the benefit of being able to use saltwater.

          • buckykat [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            Turbines are precision machines. And if we're talking utility scale installations here, we want an upper reservoir measured in thousands of cubic meters, not liters.

          • Farvana@lemmygrad.ml
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            3 months ago

            The pipe and turbine would break so fast it's basically useless. Also, tanks are waaaay more expensive than digging a hole in the ground.

            There's good reasons why freshwater open reservoirs are used. If tanks and brine were usable, people already would be using them.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      For places without water, what's wrong with importing a bunch once? Evaporation suppressors exist to help with hotter climates.

      You're probably right about the hills. Building a water tower that can hold an entire lake seems inefficient.

    • Hexboare [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      You don't really need huge volumes of water, a 5GW hydro storage proposal in Australia will require 38 gigalitres, or 0.038 cubic kilometres. At a depth of ten metres, that's a 2km circle (or rather, two ~1.5km circular reservoirs).

      Arizona uses ~8500 gigalitres a year to put that in comparison.