Some lib shit, but surprisingly good take for being published in the Guardian.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    This happened to South Africa before it was ended too.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      1 month ago

      The way Israel has behaved in the last year, they've cemented that they can never become like South Africa; even if a ceasefire is declared and apartheid ended, how do you tell people who've just survived a horrific genocide to just go on and live with the people who were just cheering for them and their children to be turned into unrecognizable gore?

      Even if white South Africans had felt the same way about black South Africans that Israelis do about Palestinians, they hadn't yet crossed the threshold into literal holocaust; the plausible deniability that the white South Africans would never have done so makes it easy for bygones to be bygones; Israel has crossed that threshold and the illusion that they never would have conducted a genocide no longer exists.

      A one state solution even on October 6th, despite the atrocities of the preceding decades, would have been easy to do and would have been welcomed by the Palestinian people, now that's literally impossible, and Israel will never accept a true two state solution that would allow a Palestinian state to legally have its own army and be able to arm themselves into becoming a formidable force.

      Saying all this, it makes me realize how awesome the DPRK is because I do truly believe that if America genuinely approached North Korea with the intent of peaceful coexistence and to put the past behind, I do believe the DPRK would embrace it (of course this requires evidence that it's not being done in bad faith; they would be dealing with the US government); the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and even Iran to be honest.

      • RaisedFistJoker [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        north korea has explictly stated it no longer seeks reuinification with the south, i think north korea is the last country now that would ever believe in the so called good intensions of the US

      • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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        1 month ago

        Even if South Africans had felt the same way about black people that Israelis do about Palestinians

        You should rephrase this comment

        • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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          1 month ago

          Thanks, I re-read that sentence multiple times and kept getting the feeling I really need to rephrase it even if I didn't intend it the way it was written. I should've rephrased it the moment I re-read it.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        30 days ago

        I don't think this is true. I think the majority of the actually evil people in Israel are either going to die fighting in the war as it escalates or run back to the US and Europe out of fear.

        What I think will remain will be a populace that just wants to live.

        The remainder that do not die fighting or run will be imprisoned for crimes against humanity and tried for the genocide they've committed. Most that know this will run.