• PKMKII [none/use name]
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    16 hours ago

    Because hetero women having sexual desires they need fulfilled implies that men have to step up and actually care about fulfilling a woman’s needs, and that’s too intimidating/selfless for these dorks. So instead we get either “I’m not that kind of girl!” or sex being purely a social leveraging tool for women.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      16 hours ago

      I think that's a huge part of it.

      Contemporary hogs, from otaku/weebs to boomers, are put off or even afraid of women wanting sex rather than sex being something "earned" by men (in some transactional way that isn't actually about making the woman happy) or something women are tricked into, or worse.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        15 hours ago

        I remember talking with a boomer family member, and he sort of timidly revealed that he thought most of the women he'd slept with didn't think they were allowed to enjoy sex or relax. He didn't know what to do with that and clearly found it unsettling. Like, even if they knew the problem was there, what tools did they even have surrounded by that society?

        And some days it feels like we're headed back there with the recent manifestations of neo-puritanism clawing back at gains made over decades where women are finally allowed to be horny, to enjoy sex, and to demand good sex.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          14 hours ago

          We're experiencing a hellish hybrid of puritanism and coarse hedonism where sex is a guilty shameful thing that is supposed to be indulged in in goon caves and even in fictional presentations is something to be coerced out of feeemales because it'd be too scary for women to openly want sex.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            14 hours ago

            Right? Sex is forbidden, but if it's allowed it has to be violent, shameful, bad, mechanical, or all four. You can fuck but you're not allowed to let anyone see you enjoy fucking.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              14 hours ago

              Repression and "purity" culture are just hog fetishes applied to society willing or not.

            • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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              13 hours ago

              Most of these were ways to get around the Hayes code when showing sex (or queer people just existing) for decades, and it shapes how Hollywood makes movies until this day because art under capitalism is believed to have to stick to conventions to work as a commodity and Hollywood is particularly bad in that regard.