• DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    6 hours ago

    This is actually really sad in a way. This is a person who has no one to go to the movies with, no friends or family willing to watch a film with them. I can't imagine someone coming to this conclusion otherwise.

    I doubt most people would go to their mum and be like "Hey, want to watch that borderline softcore porn superhero movie with me?"

  • SSJ3Marx [he/him]
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    11 hours ago

    This is what the directors of exploitation movies thought, and those films never really made huge amounts of money even in their heyday. This gooner shit is the refuge of directors who don't have any good ideas and who lived in a time before internet porn.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      12 hours ago

      Feminine means bad and the only way to drive away the badness is eating lots of le epic bacon and being emotionally as well as rectally constipated! frothingfash

  • Owl [he/him]
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    16 hours ago

    These look like promos for porn parodies.

    Go make porn parodies if that's what you want.

    Shoving porn in front of people's faces when they're not looking for it is sexual harassment. Advocating for a world where there's porn everywhere is like being one of those weirdos who can't shut up about your Gor fetish.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      16 hours ago

      I do find it telling that so many erotica subcommunities have a "no Gor" tag. It's a magical realm that a lot of people do not want to accidentally enter.

    • neo [he/him]
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      14 hours ago

      The only Gor content anyone should ever be exposed to is the MST3K episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkgyvgG2fXs

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    11 hours ago

    If they want Supergirl in even more titillating clothes, Power Girl is right there! Though in all seriousness, more Power Girl stuff would be cool.

  • RION [she/her]
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    14 hours ago

    Real ones were already crushing on supergirl in the OG suit. It's already skintight dude, are you that overgooned?

    • SSJ3Marx [he/him]
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      11 hours ago

      Harley Quinn's most iconic outfit is a 100% covering brightly colored clown costume, this despite her having a bunch of spinoff series where she's dressed a lot more provocatively.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    17 hours ago

    I'd be fine with explicit onscreen sex. Just not in this culture or anything remotely like this culture.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      16 hours ago

      I'd be happy with more sensuality in fiction and cinema. But the the plastic horniness and coercive/exploitative/violent presentation of what we get fucking sucks and I hate it.

      Is it such a big ask for visibly adult women to be horny and have fun with their bodies (or perish the thought, men too)? Does it always have to be "NYAAAAAH YOU SAW MY PANTIES SENPAI" or (insert movie trailer dry humping against wall here) or awooga libertarian-alert hypersus Gambo shit?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        14 hours ago

        Right? It's awful. Browse through one of those sites that collects nude scenes in movies and compare how often nudity is used in a scene that is positive and joyful compared to how often it's used for shame, humiliation, violence, weakness.

        I think the simple fact that hollywood cannot and will not show an erect penis, ever, is incredibly damning. It's such a banal, innocuous thing, but somehow it's utterly taboo to show a straightforward, visible sign of arousal and excitement during a sex scene!

        Even when the characters are having a good time, you rarely see any intimacy. The characters don't smile at each other, giggle, play with each other's hair, pause just to be present. It's so often this incredibly rigid formula, a performance of a performance of a performance of sex.

        I've heard a rumor that the mpaa will deny a rating to any movie where someone 1.) Goes down on a woman for more than six seconds and 2.) The woman is obvious having a good time.

        Like we have a cultural supreme court that exists specifically to prevent media depictions of sex from being too happy, too loving, too full of wonder and joy and life. Idk if the rumor is true but it sure as hell feels true.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          14 hours ago

          There's a well known Burgerland quirk where (CW: gore)

          spoiler

          sucking on a nipple is considered "X-Rated" but chopping a breast off with a meat cleaver is just "R-Rated."

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            14 hours ago

            God fuck the MPAA it's such a disgusting, socially violent institution. There's just layers and layers of systems in America devoted to twisting, distorting, and misrepresenting sex and intimacy, a whole fucking bureaucracy to ensure no one ever sees sex in a positive, easy, light, and joyful presentation.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        16 hours ago

        Because hetero women having sexual desires they need fulfilled implies that men have to step up and actually care about fulfilling a woman’s needs, and that’s too intimidating/selfless for these dorks. So instead we get either “I’m not that kind of girl!” or sex being purely a social leveraging tool for women.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          16 hours ago

          I think that's a huge part of it.

          Contemporary hogs, from otaku/weebs to boomers, are put off or even afraid of women wanting sex rather than sex being something "earned" by men (in some transactional way that isn't actually about making the woman happy) or something women are tricked into, or worse.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            15 hours ago

            I remember talking with a boomer family member, and he sort of timidly revealed that he thought most of the women he'd slept with didn't think they were allowed to enjoy sex or relax. He didn't know what to do with that and clearly found it unsettling. Like, even if they knew the problem was there, what tools did they even have surrounded by that society?

            And some days it feels like we're headed back there with the recent manifestations of neo-puritanism clawing back at gains made over decades where women are finally allowed to be horny, to enjoy sex, and to demand good sex.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              14 hours ago

              We're experiencing a hellish hybrid of puritanism and coarse hedonism where sex is a guilty shameful thing that is supposed to be indulged in in goon caves and even in fictional presentations is something to be coerced out of feeemales because it'd be too scary for women to openly want sex.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                14 hours ago

                Right? Sex is forbidden, but if it's allowed it has to be violent, shameful, bad, mechanical, or all four. You can fuck but you're not allowed to let anyone see you enjoy fucking.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  14 hours ago

                  Repression and "purity" culture are just hog fetishes applied to society willing or not.

                • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                  13 hours ago

                  Most of these were ways to get around the Hayes code when showing sex (or queer people just existing) for decades, and it shapes how Hollywood makes movies until this day because art under capitalism is believed to have to stick to conventions to work as a commodity and Hollywood is particularly bad in that regard.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    16 hours ago

    Disregarding everything else, why did it make Harley Quinn like 3.5 feet tall?

    • Owl [he/him]
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      15 hours ago

      The Joker is a clown, maybe he's on stilts.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        15 hours ago

        Best explanation honestly. I would love a scene where bats is trying to fight joker but joker has just discovered power-stilts and is bouncing around the room being a goof while, idk, robin is dangling over a pit of acid or whatever.

  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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    17 hours ago

    If I wanted to watch pornography, I would open up pornhub, brazzers, or for hentai, joi database, literally anything

    Come on, Cons, make your own ORIGINAL media with that sex shit... BUT don't impose it on every media you consider liberal...

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      16 hours ago

      Too many people are so pornbrained that they think it's "puritan" to not want every fucking thing to be pornographic at all times.

      I watch porn. I have my treats and problematic favorites. But for fuck's sake is it so "puritan" to want to watch a mystery, a comedy, a drama, or the like without awooga or for that matter awooga libertarian-alert hypersus shoveled in to feed hogs and make smuglords feel like "grown-ass adults" for consuming it?

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          16 hours ago

          Many such cases.

          One former Hexbear had a meltdown once by declaring and doubling down on all western animation being "for babies," direct quote, and of course that user had an anime waifu avatar. I tried to argue, but then what I got back was "oh by all means UlyssesT tell us how much you like Dragon Tales too."

          I'm glad the meltdown lead to a ban. rip-bozo

          "Grown-ass adult" mentality is so fucking immature.

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          • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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            16 hours ago

            Shit I saw some people talk about they wish it was like the older days with more sex scenes etc but there are reasons why nowadays there are intimacy coordinators on the set. Not even against the scenes but I read that sex scenes declined by a large margin 40% or so.... I imagine part of the reason is that several actors/actresses may or may not be comfortable with such scenes. Add while art can take you out of your comfort zone Idk

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              16 hours ago

              Sometimes the coerced abuse is right on set with everyone watching, using contractual bullying or the like to distress the actor. Emilia Clarke had to go through that on the Gambo show, the distress on her face was real during those early awooga libertarian-alert hypersus scenes, and the trust fund hogs running the show got so mad when she renogotiated her contract that they eventually character assassinated her in a sort of literal "assassinate the character after cheapening the arc of a SV victim" way.

              I fucking hate that show so much and anyone talking about how "sexy" it was is deeply sus to me.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                14 hours ago

                I remember reading somewhere that when Momoa realized they didn't have a robe ready for Clark between takes of the sex scenes he started screaming at the director to get her something to wear between takes.

              • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                16 hours ago

                you think that may have something to do with it? The nudes she did became less and less each season.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  16 hours ago

                  She was coerced into her early scenes by contractual obligation and the hogs were oinking because of her visible distress, including on set.

                  I think the expanded use of intimacy coordinators are a post-Gambo consequence, though the actual trust fund hogs that pushed Emilia Clarke into that didn't get punished in any way because rich cishet white men.

                  • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                    16 hours ago

                    I remember the backlash when Penn Bagley said he didn't wanna do racy scenes on the show You. Said he wasn't as comfortable about it since he was married. Mfs called him all kinds of shit even called him MAGA etc. Talking about "he has no self control" "his marriage must not be strong" "he probably isn't comfortable" people insinuating he has backwards views of women. All this sounded to me was like the gamer version of a show like this.

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      16 hours ago

                      That's the first time I heard of that particular moment; sounds like the flipside of that "being a sex pest is sex positivity" shit that Louis CK and Joss Whedon were pushing on set.

                      • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                        16 hours ago

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/11xeipx/penn_badgley_thinks_we_all_overreacted_to_his/ Man didn't even say anything bad. Its like actors and actresses aren't allowed to have boundaries? And mind you these things have multiple shoots. They're uncomfortable as fuck

                          • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                            16 hours ago

                            There was a time Ricci refused to a scene like the director wanted to which is telling because she's done plenty of sex scenes. The director threatened to sue her but she stood her ground.

                            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                              16 hours ago

                              There's this weird fucked up puritan/pornbrain hybrid mentality that sees any actor that got naked on set as having surrendered the right to ever say no to doing le sexy sex scenes in the future.

                              Similarly, entire careers have sunk in the past because someone who was "le sexy" got naked and afterward was suddenly not seen as tantalizing enough or whatever.

                              Halle Berry's career took a dive after Swordfish, for example.

                              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                                14 hours ago

                                Yeah. The Madonna/Whore thing runs extremely, extremely deep. Once you're "tainted" you're tainted forever.

                                It's something I really admire about Miley Cyrus - as soon as she was out from under Disney's thumb she got a flamethrower, burned down her squeaky clean Hannah Montana character, and never apologized.

                                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                  14 hours ago

                                  Angelina Jolie somehow escaped that terrible stigma by getting naked early and then just owning it and continuing on. Not sure how much of that was luck and how much of that was fighting like hell.

                                  Same deal with Monica Belluci, but she's not exactly Burgerland focused.

                              • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                                15 hours ago

                                Hold on you mantioned game of thrones. Lancel Lannister was 17 years old and was doing nudes in that

                                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                  15 hours ago

                                  Oh for fuck's sake, I didn't even know that. I didn't know I could hate Gambo even more. libertarian-alert

                                  • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                                    15 hours ago

                                    I got more examples Gemma forced to do shit she doesn't want to https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/gemma-arterton-sex-scene-director-b2610110.html Maybe there are less scenes because actresses have a choice and more power than they did in the past.

                                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                      15 hours ago

                                      That's the "cancel culture" scare that cishet dudebro hogs have been so upset about.

                                      • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                                        15 hours ago

                                        Now you see the movie poor things. How many scenes were in that? But it doesn't seem to have these allegations. Hmmmmm maybe......

                                  • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                                    15 hours ago

                                    Didn't they wait for Sophie turner to turn 18 to give her her firstremoved scene? How.... Considerate

                                  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                                    14 hours ago

                                    Eugh. I found out one of the sand snakes was put in a nude scene either literally the day she turned eighteen or the day after. She was an adult, she had the right to do that, but the directors? Are you fucking serious? I can't believe anyone was willing to work with them after that. Idk, maybe the actress enthusiastically agreed to the idea, but ffs give the woman time to recover from her birthday hangover!

                                    It's like those old "countdown timers" webpages people used to maintain counting down until the Olsen twins were legally adults or something. Just 1 - what the fuck? And 2 - why the fuck was that acceptable?

                                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                      14 hours ago

                                      I still have ugly internet fights at times over that; some people think "sex positivity" means sex pestery and being a creep no longer conceptually exists.

                                    • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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                                      14 hours ago

                                      Wait which one? Damn the more I read about D&D with this stuff the less I like em

                                      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                                        13 hours ago

                                        I think it's the one who tries to trick a guard ina. Dungeon but admittedly i didn't watch gambo.

          • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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            15 hours ago

            Dragon Tales was great, what are they talking about. That shit slapped when I was five.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              15 hours ago

              I haven't seen it, but even if I had, it's probably better than "Help I Fell Unconscious And Now I Am In Yet Another Wish Fulfillment Video Game World With Sexual Pathology Characteristics" anime slop.

    • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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      17 hours ago

      Come on, Cons, make your own media with that sex shit...

      Don't encourage them. There is no such thing as "art" where a conservative renders something from out of the hatesink that is their brainpan.

        • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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          17 hours ago

          Like I'm not gonna front. I'm a grown ass them; I have no issue with sexuality, even to a raunchy, near-pornographic degree involved in artistic pursuits. Some of my favorite fictional novel series are two steps from being straight-up erotica if not for the not sexually-related issues of the overarching plots they have; we don't do that Tipper Gore shit here.

          But I would never let a conservative, a republican, an alt-righter, or what have you, anywhere near a pen or keyboard for it.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    16 hours ago

    At some point I'll just make a novelty account for posting Bill Hicks...until then:

    Thank you very much. I'm just trying to rid the world of all these fevered egos that are tainting our collective unconscious... and making us pay a higher psychic price than we imagine. In fact, that's how I pitched it to the networks exactly. I said, uh, "I'd like to do a show where I rid the world of all these fevered egos that are tainting our collective unconscious." And the guy at CBS said, "Will there be titty?" And, uh... I said, "Sure, I don't know, sure." Boom! A check falls in my lap and, uh... I'm a producer. I never knew it was that easy. All these years I've been trying to write scripts and characters and plots and stories that had meaning. "Will there be titty?" "Sure." Boom! I'm a... I'm a producer now. "Where have you been all our lives, boy? We've been looking for you in Hollywood. What are these titties gonna do?" "...jiggle?" "You're a fucking genius. Give him another check! I can't write enough checks for you. You've answered our prayers in Hollywood. Jiggling titties, you woulda thunk of it?"

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    14 hours ago

    That costume on the left looks hella uncomfortable and awkward.

    Rewatching Golden Age films really shows how you can make something sexy without taking all your clothes off. Probably the only decent thing to come out of the Hayes Code.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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    13 hours ago

    Maybe the discourse on this anti-woke shit should include these undiagnosed porn addictions masquerading as opposition to woke media. What if these men had therapy instead of photoshop.

  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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    11 hours ago

    Chuds can't decide between "society is too sexualised I want traditional women!" And "AWOOGA I WANT EVERY MEDIA TO BE SOFTCORE PORNO"