Theres enough racist people that hes a candidate

Thats it, lets stop putting our heads in the sand with 'economic anxiety'

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    7 hours ago

    I am saying it. Look at italians. Thye were swartly PoC and in our lifetimes they were upgraded to white because we needed more numbers to opress the other minorities with. Before that it was the Irish. Looks like pretty soon Brazilians will be white too. After them probably some Cubans than eventually all Cubans. The japanese were white for a while because we needed people to opress the Chinese with. They lost it when they stoped being a useful tool.

    White is not about race. It is a class under cpaitlaism. So long as there is money to be made we will always racialize new and interesting outgroups.

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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      6 hours ago

      White is not about race. It is a class under cpaitlaism

      nah it's race. If you have a rich black in a community full of whites they'll just kill the rich black on the day SHTF

      can't imagine being this scatterbrained

      • StalinStan [none/use name]
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        5 hours ago

        But which came first. Is he other because he is black? Or is he black because he us other. Compare a melungion person to a light skinned black person. In that situation race has almost nothing to do with race and everything to do with ses.

          • StalinStan [none/use name]
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            4 hours ago

            There are plenty of differences we don't create "race" around. Some of which are even more heritable than a skin color. I think though pi,king thr most obvious one despite it being much less informative or useful is a clear indicator race doesn't actually matter as such. It only matters in it's ease of use for capitlaism

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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      6 hours ago

      Look at italians. Thye were swartly PoC and in our lifetimes they were upgraded to white because we needed more numbers to opress the other minorities with. Before that it was the Irish

      you're disproving your own point here. Irish and Italians entered the US at the same time. Irish racism died out in the early-mid 1900s, Italians faced mild racism as late as the 1990s, and still do if they're dark enough

      "Racism is economic bc we needed to water down the definition of white to ally against even darker hordes" isn't the winning argument that you think it is

      • StalinStan [none/use name]
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        5 hours ago

        Yeah, the Irish were made cops so that put them up the class structure. Turning men at arms into full citizens was a classic move. There is no fundamental difference between them, they just found themselves in diffrent places in the super structure and were treated diffrent as material circumstances would dictate.

        • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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          5 hours ago

          Yeah, the Irish were made cops so that put them up the class structure

          and WHY were the Irish made cops as opposed to the Italians?

          • StalinStan [none/use name]
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            5 hours ago

            Cause they were already partially converted by British colonization. The Irish were papists just like the Italians.

            You are proposing the Irish were whiter so they got treated better? That ignores the times in which they were not treated better. I don't think you can construct a clear line through this data.

            • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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              5 hours ago

              Why have I seen a job application from the 1980s where the applicant could mark down "Caucasoid: Northern European" "Caucasoid: Asian Indian/Middle Eastern" and "Caucasoid: Italian/Southern European"

              I don't think the hirer cared much about papism

              • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                5 hours ago

                I can't begin to guess. Is a sample size of one idiot a useful data set for considering American society? Usually not.

                • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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                  5 hours ago

                  I have Italian friends whose parents couldn't find houses in WASP neighborhoods, this is a weird hill to die on. Most people can tell the difference between a group of Sicilians and a group of Irish. It's not hard.

                  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                    5 hours ago

                    Yeah, but no one cares any more to my knowledge. So you have a first order experience of them going from non-white to white. Without any phenotypic changes. You are seeing the fake system in fake action. If it was about any genetic factor that wouldn't have happened.

                    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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                      5 hours ago

                      Yeah, but no one cares any more to my knowledge.

                      if racism against Black/Brown people exists, it also exists (to a lesser extent) against people who pass as Black/Brown

                      If you're applying to buy a house, they can see your name is Salvatori Giupetti
                      If you're walking down the street, they just see a Latino

          • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
            hexagon
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            5 hours ago

            Yeah despite being catholic the irish are still northern european, which is what most us anglos mean when they say "white"