Mashallah Lebanon has made us the most perfect condiment ever made. I am eating it with BBQ chips rn for the most intense vegan snack on the Earth.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    27 days ago

    Toum is a valid condiment and is naturally vegan. To make mayo vegan you need to do weird things with unpalatable/indigestible waste products. But mayo isn't a very good sauce anyway.

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      27 days ago

      You can make homemade vegan mayo with whole ingredients but it doesn't keep more than a couple days

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            26 days ago

            It's an untreated byproduct that you normally discard. Every culture that eats beans has discarded their bean rinse water; you don't really see recipes that have you cook the beans in their own rinse. Canned beans have been a thing for a century or more but there's a good reason why bean wastewater was only "discovered" by some random guy 10 years ago.

            Saponins and other stuff in there are cool for industrial processes but you don't really want to ingest them.

            • Hexboare [they/them]
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              26 days ago

              Every culture that eats beans has discarded their bean rinse water

              Because there hasn't been a need to create an egg substitute that produces recipes that traditionally just used egg.

              you don't really see recipes that have you cook the beans in their own rinse

              I thought the soak rinse was always discarded, the aquafaba is from the cooking water (either in a can or the pot it's boiled in)

              You can taste saponins, a quick google search suggests that there are definitely some people making extremely bitter aquafaba (i.e. likely with a high saponin quantity) but that's not supposed to be the outcome.

        • Pili [any, any]
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          27 days ago

          I saw a recipe where you just blend together oil, soy milk, lemon juice, and salt, and it makes a really good mayo.

          It does in their videos at least, I was never able to make something close to it.

          • Eco [she/her, he/him]
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            27 days ago

            you wanna use a food processor or a stick blender in my experience. also add some mustard to help it emulsify. most recipes are a slight variation on this one:

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          • Alisu [they/them]
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            26 days ago

            Add the oil as you blend, slowly until it gets a good consistency. I do this with garlic to make garlic bread at home

        • Barx [none/use name]
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          26 days ago

          I think that would be acting as an emulsifier and thickener. I haven't made vegan mayo with it. I think the ingredients that I do use that would serve those roles are soy milk or a little starch.

    • Pili [any, any]
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      27 days ago

      I love mayo, I'm forced to eat my fries with ketchup since going vegan and that's very frustrating to me.

      • roux [he/him, they/them]
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        27 days ago

        Hidden Valley makes a plant-based ranch, if you wanna go that route. The vegan mayo I use is from a brand called Best Foods. I think it's just a regional rebranding of another mayo. It's ok but if you are recently coming over to the vegan lifestyle, it is noticeably off from real may. It works well as a spread of for an ingredient for a sauce though. I have a non-vegan friend that was raw dogging her chicken nuggets with it though so ymmv.

    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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      26 days ago

      Spanish aioli is vegan (unlike the French who put eggs in it) but it wraps back around to just being a less acidic Toum.