I'm guessing it's like Christianity where there are leftist Christians who follow Jesus' more progressive messages such as giving to the less fortunate and healing the sick, and then there are the scary Christian evangelicals that want A Handmaids Tale and conversion therapy. Logically, Islam probably isn't a monolith in a similar way other religions aren't.

However, I have never heard about what those of the Islamic faith actually believe outside of the hysterical post 9/11 Islamophobia I've been indoctrinated with as a child.

I want to know what the truth is and hear the other sides story. To me it's obvious that Islamophobia is wrong, however when Islamophobes make wild claims about it, I can't really refute them confidently because I'm simply ignorant of the facts. Please educate my dumb, white ass.

  • Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]
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    18 hours ago

    Dawkins is obviously an atheist but a racist and the religious umbrella of Christian fundamentalism is a comfortable habitat for him.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      18 hours ago

      is obviously an atheist but a racist

      Are you that fucking dense that you think there's some magical euphoric racism-free default state of atheism that Dawkins and millions of affluent tech capitalists and their minions are somehow banished from (and somehow cease to be atheists) the moment they become racist?

      Do you seriously believe that racism comes specifically and exclusively from religious belief? clown

      • Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]
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        17 hours ago

        And or a racist. I'm saying he is a racist and an atheist. The two are independent. But his racism finds a good home in Christian fundamentalism as it would.

        I'm just trying to clarify what I meant and Ill be honest I have no idea what you're saying or arguing at this point.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          17 hours ago

          You're too high on Sam Harris' farts to actually read and understand what Marx wrote, apparently, so I'll instead ask you to at least read the room.

          Looking down on crushingly oppressed people around the world because they didn't become le enlightened gentlesirs of le atheism yet is making a clown of you here.

          Ill be honest I have no idea what you're saying or arguing at this point.

          I repeated myself many times regarding what Marx actually said compared to what you are pretending he said. No investigation, no right to speak.

          • Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]
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            17 hours ago

            You're being ridiculous. I dont like fedoras or care what sam Harris or his racist pos group of new atheists say. Pointing out that people dying under capitalism find hope in religion doesn't make religion a progressive force. And me pointing out that religion can never be a progressive force is not me condescendingly looking down on these people. In fact I am more aware of the tragedy than you are in that their only hope (as they are genocided in real time on everyones social media feeds) is a complete dead end. And Islam has hurt Muslims far more than anyone else (although it's clear Christianity is the far more damaging religion) and I can recognize that because guese what I grew up Muslim.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              9 hours ago

              You're being ridiculous.

              I dont like fedoras

              You're once again demonstrating a total failure of reading comprehension. You don't have to literally like fedoras to be a fedora tier arrogant and ignorant reactionary. Pretending to cite Marx while failing to understand the time and place and conditions for a post-religious society is also on you.

              You are ridiculous to a ruinous degree and you embarrass atheism with your ignorance and clownishness.