Inspired by some of the discussion in this thread. I don't think it's appropriate place for that discussion there, but hey why not have a separate thread for it

If I think religion is not good in general, am I Reddit and cringe and basically Richard Dawkins?

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    Mans also very defensive of that "bell curve" author. Also spoke in defense of torture

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      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        And even if it was true, you have to be some kind of unique techno bro piece of shit to want to quantify the value of a people's lives through technological discovery. Like, your culture is only worth something if it produces le science, not because it has a right to exist and thrive by virtue of existing. Might as well get rid of all art that's not bazinga sci-fi marvel slop to make you go awooga

        The whole other thread about China had me thinking about this all day. How fucking slimy do you have to be to say "the Chinese people would be worth so much more if they invented more gadgets"

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          • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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            https://hexbear.net/post/3801944?scrollToComments=false

            The person we were dunking on was lamenting the "wasted potential" of le science Chinese people would've discovered if only they were a liberal democracy.

            This rubbed me all sorts of wrong of course, but mostly because this person can only understand a people's value by amount of technology, like if people don't spend every waking moment being epic scientists they're a waste of space, and that all knowledge that's doesn't fit this person's view of development is worthless.

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              • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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                It's just so... inhuman. When I think about the wasted potential (even if I'm a bit uncomfortable with the phrase) because of capitalism and genocide and dispossession, I don't think that we've been deprived of flying cars or nuclear fusion or whatever; I think about how many people could've been happier in a different world, how many families could've loved each other for longer and better, how many celebrations and expressions of the human condition could be out there, how much we're missing out on the feeling of basic human dignity because we're ground into paste by an uncaring, poisonous system.

                I get really suspicious, and really sad, when someone demonstrates all they care about is technology, leaving any other part of being human to the side.

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        Hilariously Sam Harris writes books on meditation now, joined the McMindfulness camp. Its even impossible to criticism him on /r/buddhism without western-supremacists jumping down your throat.

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      • vegeta1 [he/him]
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        I also notice how a lot of atheist online who are noticeably quiet about the famous atheists who do convert to Christianity like Russell brand or ayan hrsi especially when they cosign far right rhethoric . It definitely would be a hell of a lot louder if one of em converted to islam