I'm guessing it's like Christianity where there are leftist Christians who follow Jesus' more progressive messages such as giving to the less fortunate and healing the sick, and then there are the scary Christian evangelicals that want A Handmaids Tale and conversion therapy. Logically, Islam probably isn't a monolith in a similar way other religions aren't.

However, I have never heard about what those of the Islamic faith actually believe outside of the hysterical post 9/11 Islamophobia I've been indoctrinated with as a child.

I want to know what the truth is and hear the other sides story. To me it's obvious that Islamophobia is wrong, however when Islamophobes make wild claims about it, I can't really refute them confidently because I'm simply ignorant of the facts. Please educate my dumb, white ass.

  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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    10 hours ago

    got a long way to go before we invalidate my "predominantly" qualifier. there are feminists who don't reject christianity for whatever reason too, it doesn't change my baseline expectations of reactionary or "moderate" christians.

    • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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      8 hours ago

      I don't see how there's anything necessarily bad inherent in Christianity. That Jesus guy seems like a pretty cool dude. kind of a revolutionary figure.

      He was big on pacifism, and the guys that killed him co-opted his name and went on killing in his name. Kinda messed up to conclude that his ideas are responsible for the killing.

      This has happened with countless groups over the centuries. Those truly following the teachings of Christ won't murder at the behest of empire? Exterminate those heretics and replace them with ones that will follow orders and pay lip service.

      In modern times, any Muslim state that tries to do anything remotely good will be decimated by the US, who will then support the most violent reactionaries in the region.

      Are all the oppressive reactionary Muslim states to be blamed on the nature of Islam?

      Personally, I see religion as a versatile tool. People get so many different things out of it.

        • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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          18 minutes ago

          you are not the authority of "true" christianity.

          I'm not the authority of Christianity, that would be Christ. Christianity is the teachings of Christ, yes?

          I don't think any of the above is controversial, so I hope we can agree on this basic definition.

          And yes, the teachings of Christ include what one could argue is the "worship of a genocidal entity".

          But do you not feel utterly ridiculous?

          Like your immediate response to the sermon on the mount is "fuck you you worship a genocidal entity"?

          Your immediate response to John Brown is "bro you worship a genocidal entity"?

          Your immediate response to Malcolm X is "you worship a genocidal entity (and in the worst way bc Islam)"?

          Can you so casually dismiss every religious person who has fought, struggled and died for a just cause? Because they believed in the Abrahamic god, while you're here smugly patting yourself on the back for having the correct opinions?