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  • newacctidk [none/use name]
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    20 days ago

    No they just both enable hatred for LGBTQ people and do nothing to stop it. the idea that said people at the end of your comment have to "surpass" any votes is childish. They didn't have to surpass any votes to wipe out Palestine, they didnt have to surpass any votes to kill M4A. You bring fascism to everyone's doorstep and then act baffled when we choose not to buddy up with you once it tries to get inside.

    • migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      20 days ago

      Again, you have 2 real options to choose from. On one side you have a guy that wants to be a dictator, on the other the same type of shit as always. Anything, even not voting, is a decision to pick one of these 2 options.

      If you really feel they are the same. You're enabling the dictator that has a lot of supporters.

      • newacctidk [none/use name]
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        20 days ago

        You describe three options, but just keep proclaiming they are really two. Fucking Cardassian BS. You showing your belly to the democrats is enabling the dictator given the dems are TOUTING that they are fighting for Trump's border policy.

        • migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          20 days ago

          You have only 2 outcomes. You can go there and shit on the ballot, that's an option. But it doesn't change having 2 outcomes.

          • REgon [they/them]
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            20 days ago

            There's actually an immense number of choices, but only 1 outcome, it's the same shit with either of the two possible winners. This is your candidate. I'm sure the woman who voted against federal funding for abortion on two separate times will turn out to be a great crusader for Roe v. Wade

            The best you can do is work towards creating an alternative for the future, which requires that you do not vote for them - And I need to be clear, not voting for them is less than the least you can do. The least you can do is go out and [redacted]

          • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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            20 days ago

            Elections are not isolated events in a vacuum, devoid of context, purely about which genocidal Imperialist wins.

            that workers’ candidates are nominated everywhere in opposition to bourgeois-democratic candidates. As far as possible they should be League members and their election should be pursued by all possible means. Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled.

            From the Mario and Luigi of Communism, marx-hi blushing-engels

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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            20 days ago

            At this point you're so fucking annoying that I kinda want whatever outcome hurts you

            You're doing a great job campaigning for trump-moist but we just won't vote for him sorry

          • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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            20 days ago

            You have only one outcome: the USA will move rightward.

            To the extent that voting matters in a fundamentally broken electoral system like ours, voting for the democrats is an affirmation of the choices they have made: affirmation of their choice to arm genocide in Gaza, affirmation of their choice to move right on immigration, affirmation of their choice to abandon death penalty abolition from their platform, etc.

            Why would they ever change course as a party if they still get the only thing they want from you either way? Lesser evil voting is a race to the bottom, and the longer people wait to correct the democrats' course, the more painful it will be to endure a republican government in the meantime.

            The democrats will never stop this country from its rightward trajectory if they keep moving rightward with it because their base continually validates them.

            • REgon [they/them]
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              19 days ago

              Yeah electorialism is a fuck, but if you're the type that believes in it, then you have to accept that it only works if you vote for someone who represents you, not for whomever least doesn't, but is also able to win the whole thing.

              Representative democracy only works if you vote for a representative.

      • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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        20 days ago

        Again, you have 2 real options

        Why perputrate a failed system that offers 2 Choices , both Zionist ? Thats Undemocratic. People Need to vote for who represents them , if they dont they fail in their Duty of Citizens and Perputrate a Undemocratic system ,that offers bad choices .

        Somebody that doesnt do that but votes for a "Lesser evil" is activly participating in the Destruction of Democracy. He is a Enableer of this Destruction. A traiteor to his Countryman , and in this Particluar case , all of Humanity and its Developments in Humanitarianism.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        You are an actual lemming. If you provide your enthusiastic support for the 'same as always' candidate, when do you think things will ever change for the better? Grab a gun! Join a union! Stop telling people to vote for genocide!

      • Jabril [none/use name]
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        20 days ago

        America has always been a dictatorship of the capitalist class over everyone else. You do not have two real options to choose from, you have two pre-selected symbolic representations of your subjugation by and for capital.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        20 days ago

        You could literally just stay home, eat cheetos and masturbate for the entirety of election day and accomplish more politically than endorsing wither genocidal candidate because you withdrew your support from any candidate until they fuck off with the genocide. They're both equally bad, this isn't a meaningful decision, so not bothering to make it is fine.

        • REgon [they/them]
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          19 days ago

          Yeah electorialism is a fuck, but if you're the type that believes in it, then you have to accept that it only works if you vote for someone who represents you, not for whomever least doesn't, but is also able to win the whole thing.

          Representative democracy only works if you vote for a representative.

          Edit: I see I posted it twice... Weird, but it works as aresponce to both