• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    3 hours ago

    Anarcho-NATOist detectedfunny-clown-hammer

    Hey quick question, can you tell me where fascism arises from, and why?

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        3 hours ago

        Fascism arises from Capitalist decay. Fascism is the self-defense mechanism of the bourgeoisie deployed against rising revolutionary undercurrents from the working class as the contradictions within Capitalist society sharpen.

        You really should read Blackshirts and Reds, at least the first few chapters.

        • SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol
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          3 hours ago

          And you really should read CoB if you think everybody does not have a natural right to life, and that we need oppressive top down systems to control us.

          Direct action, mutual aid, build up from the grassroots to empower people not politicians.

          • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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            3 hours ago

            Sounds great, can you grassroots me some air defense systems so my grassroots mutual aid non-state can stop getting bombed by the USAF? Thanks.

            • BeamBrain [he/him]
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              1 hour ago

              We can't reeducate or shoot the reactionaries because that would make us evil authoritarian tankies

              Oh no, the reactionaries we didn't reeducate or shoot instituted an armed takeover and now they're torturing and killing us along with countless innocent people! It was worth it to preserve our moral purity, though

              • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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                1 hour ago

                Real revolutionary socialist states: "evil authoritarian red fash, why can't you be instantly perfect utopias?!!!?"

                Failed revolutions: pure, good, unburdened by reality and the fact that every capitalist state wants you dead, totally would have established a worker's utopia in a week if it succeeded, despite being besieged on all sides.

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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            3 hours ago

            The Bread Book is good, if more people read it I think the world would be a better place. However, I firmly disagree with your analysis on the merits of Marxism. I find it insulting that you claim I don't believe everyone has a right to life, and it's disingenuous to say that a publicly owned, centrally planned, democratically run government is the same as a Capitalist State.

            I can recommend Marxist theory, if you'd like an intro list.

        • SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol
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          3 hours ago

          A state is an authoritarian organisation bent on maintaining its control over an area or peoples.

          Every state is authoritarian, not every authoritarian is a fascist.

          People > country lines.

          • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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            2 hours ago

            What prevents someone from calling your anarchist collective that arms up to defend their class interests, a state?

            What prevents ppl from labeling your actions "authoritarian" when you start to dismantle capitalist power structures?

          • TheDoctor [they/them]
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            3 hours ago

            If not every state is fascist, then the conditions for fascism must be more specific than the presence of a state

          • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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            2 hours ago

            If you think "authoritarianism bad" is a coherent anarchist ideology, you're ignorant. Whatever fantasy world you have in your head of an anarchist society will still have authority wielded for various purposes within that society

              • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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                2 hours ago

                Oh eat my dick balls and ass, liberal

                Think about it for more than 5 seconds. Do you think this fantasy society will be entirely free of disputes? How will they be decided? How will they be enforced?

                That's authority you brainless cretin.

                The only difference is an anarchist society wouldn't have this authority arbitrarily wielded by a ruling class.

                Jesus fucking christ, talk about stupid. Call me a chud again, fucker