YOU are speaking!

Have you made any poignant commentary on the recent election in the U.S.? Do you have a good response to liberals who are upset with the results or process of the election? Have you written or seen something as a comment reply/post that you think has standalone value? Did you see a new take or analysis you hadn’t previously considered?

Whether it’s a long idea with lots of context, or a short and sweet one liner, we want those thoughts aggregated here. This post is intended to be a resource for comrades to draw from when having actual discussions outside of Hexbear both online or IRL regarding the election.

Consider this a mini-effortpost aggregator. This is not for shitposts, but humor is completely acceptable if it helps make the point.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 months ago

    When you run on the status quo, and the status quo sucks, people are gonna turn to whoever manages to present themselves as an alternative.

    When you run to the right, and the people who like right-wing policies already have a party giving them the policies they want, they're not gonna switch parties, and you're just going to alienate the parts of your base/coalition that are affected by those policies.

    Not an effortpost but I think those are two simple, straightforward responses to anyone being like, "How could this possibly happen?"

    I'm also running around countering any "she lost because she's a woman" takes with with Tammy Baldwin in WI and Elissa Slotkin in MI winning despite their states going to Trump, which are two invaluable rhetorical data points, imo.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Did Harris offer any actual concrete plan for legalizing abortion? Like "We're going to do X Y Z?" I imagine at least some people kinda realized it's a sham and they have no route to power that would let them pass legislation.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          2 months ago

          There might be something on her website but she didn't run on anything beyond needing to vote harder for it, that I'm aware of.

    • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Not to do apologia for misogynists/liberals, but I do think theres a certain strain of man and woman throughout America that is more than willing to have women at the table but not at the head of it, especially when there's a person like Trump who encapsulates a lot of what is perceived as masculine to our culture.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 months ago

        While theoretically possible, I think it's a stretch to say that that represents a significant portion of the electorate that isn't already voting Republican. The only real evidence for that idea is that Clinton and Harris lost, and there are plenty of other explanations for their losses. If you make the claim that specific to where downballot races don't apply, then there just isn't enough data to make that a reliable conclusion. It also feels to me like it's just a talking point to absolve the Democrats of responsibility for running bad campaigns.

        Btw with Nevada being called for Jacky Rosen, that makes three female senators winning in states Kamala lost, and there's Ruben Gallego, a Latino, who's ahead in Arizona.