It is a loss. Why is everyone on the left FUCKING GASLIGHTING THIS!. Hezbollah entered the fight to stop the genocide in Gaza and they FAILED. Cowardly attitudes all over the left refusing to admit this and trying to gaslight us into thinking its a victory because Hezbollah is still intact (for the time being; although non-military pressure of all kinds will still be applied)
When the settlers have gone back to their homes in northern Israel I will consider it a Hezbollah loss. Their part in this coalition is maintaining pressure and a northern front. They are continuing to do that, even with a ceasefire (that will likely not even last two weeks). It isn't a loss or a victory, it is just a continuation of the war. Neither side has accomplished anything of note, but Israel also got it's nose bloodied on something they clearly thought would be a cakewalk.
Stop misusing words you don't understand like a child. No one is gaslighting anyone.
I hear you.
The only real thing that Hezbollah agreed with is the 'no longer support gaza'. That's unequivocally a loss. What about every other metric though? Israel invaded and weren't able to do anything substantial except bomb villages into oblivion.
It's become very clear that the IDF can't perform at all without an air force. All of the IDF's secondary goals have failed.
They stood up to NATO and they are still standing. They forced them to retreat, maintained inner unity despite US coup attempts and made thousands of settlers flee, who are still afraid to come back. Remember they had already plans to sell real estate in Lebanon.
Read any statement from the Palestinian resistance. They are thankful and do consider it a win. Who are we to tell them otherwise? How can people who aren't risking their lives in this judge or even understand the strategies of those who are?
Besides it's clear that the people on the ground won't stop here and won't demilitarize the south either, even if the rockets pause for a while.
Winning against is imperialism is surviving against it until the systemic forces cause its weakening and then it's overthrow. If Hezbollah is temporarily stopping to ensure survival to await further weakening, it's still a strategic position to have. It's one that can seem depressing, and can be called a battle loss, but we need to keep that in mind.
Imperialism will fall, and the contradictions are rising. Any battle loss needs to be analyzed as such and will be learned from to win the war.
Might as well say the same thing about all the worldwide protests and BDS, too. This is doomerism. It hasn't stopped the genocide YET, but that doesn't mean it had no effect. It is going to take a lot of pressure from many sources to get Israel to break.
It is a loss. Why is everyone on the left FUCKING GASLIGHTING THIS!. Hezbollah entered the fight to stop the genocide in Gaza and they FAILED. Cowardly attitudes all over the left refusing to admit this and trying to gaslight us into thinking its a victory because Hezbollah is still intact (for the time being; although non-military pressure of all kinds will still be applied)
When the settlers have gone back to their homes in northern Israel I will consider it a Hezbollah loss. Their part in this coalition is maintaining pressure and a northern front. They are continuing to do that, even with a ceasefire (that will likely not even last two weeks). It isn't a loss or a victory, it is just a continuation of the war. Neither side has accomplished anything of note, but Israel also got it's nose bloodied on something they clearly thought would be a cakewalk.
Stop misusing words you don't understand like a child. No one is gaslighting anyone.
I hear you. The only real thing that Hezbollah agreed with is the 'no longer support gaza'. That's unequivocally a loss. What about every other metric though? Israel invaded and weren't able to do anything substantial except bomb villages into oblivion. It's become very clear that the IDF can't perform at all without an air force. All of the IDF's secondary goals have failed.
They stood up to NATO and they are still standing. They forced them to retreat, maintained inner unity despite US coup attempts and made thousands of settlers flee, who are still afraid to come back. Remember they had already plans to sell real estate in Lebanon.
Read any statement from the Palestinian resistance. They are thankful and do consider it a win. Who are we to tell them otherwise? How can people who aren't risking their lives in this judge or even understand the strategies of those who are? Besides it's clear that the people on the ground won't stop here and won't demilitarize the south either, even if the rockets pause for a while.
Winning against is imperialism is surviving against it until the systemic forces cause its weakening and then it's overthrow. If Hezbollah is temporarily stopping to ensure survival to await further weakening, it's still a strategic position to have. It's one that can seem depressing, and can be called a battle loss, but we need to keep that in mind.
Imperialism will fall, and the contradictions are rising. Any battle loss needs to be analyzed as such and will be learned from to win the war.
Might as well say the same thing about all the worldwide protests and BDS, too. This is doomerism. It hasn't stopped the genocide YET, but that doesn't mean it had no effect. It is going to take a lot of pressure from many sources to get Israel to break.