This shit just happened, what kind of material change could you possibly expect to see yet? These things are never immediate and full, correct material analysis is almost always elusive until after a fair amount of time has passed where we've been able to see how things shake out. But how about the reversal on the anesthesia coverage decision, that was certainly a material change that is going to matter to a fuckton of people who have to get surgery. Really, the extent to which even deeper material change comes about as a result of this event all depends on whether or not there are some leftists somewhere who are taking advantage of this moment to seize on the widespread radical sentiment and direct it towards real productive radical outlets. And I'm certain there are some. I've talked to some who said they were making some real headway with wavering chuds, and I would like to believe them, but I'd bet there are more in little pockets all over the place now able to push things in directions they weren't able to before this happened. Like I said, it remains to be seen.

@xiaohongshu@hexbear.net gave me some things to think about when xioa posted them in this thread, in case you missed it:

Instead of seeing the opportunity and the vast possibilities opened up by this incident (far more “normal” people are supportive of left wing position than the left has been crying about for years that everyone in America is too selfish/too stupid to support healthcare rights), instead they chose to focus on the individual traits of the dude (a very liberal way of looking at the whole situation) and selectively ignore that the reaction has been a collective emotional outburst of the working class people who have been yearning to see some kind of justice being done - justice that the left only fantasized about but never delivered.

It seems clear that the only lesson to be learned from here is that if you don’t want the luigi dude to be cheered at, then the left better stand the fuck up and be the change they want to see. Again, I’m not talking about killing CEOs, I’m talking about actually organizing and push for a real change to the system.

And if you’re too afraid to stand up and do something, don’t cry about it when someone else you don’t like foolishly and accidentally did something that resonates with the plights of the working class that he got all the praise instead. There is nothing you can do at this point to change how most people feel about this incident. It’s already too late.

The whole complaint about the reaction to this incident has the sequence of events completely backward: the emotional release that came from the masses happened because it seems like the only “good” thing that has happened in years. In 2016, people were discussing about seriously getting single-payer healthcare. In 2020, people were talking about how the pandemic can potentially bring about universal healthcare. In 2024, nobody - absolutely nobody - was talking about the deteriorating and debilitating healthcare situation during the election cycle. The left wing movement is dead, and people will latch on to whatever that gives them a sliver of hope, however unrealistic it may seem to be.