Sorry for being late on this, but I saw some decrepit struggle sessoin from a while ago and wanted to add on. Also I want to make sure everybody on this site knows, especially with the new bluesky folks arriving, but NOBODY SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR INCELS.
You seriously have no excuse. There are actual adults who partake in this shit. I have been rejected and/or dumped by everybody I have shown romantic interested in, and not once in my life has it ever, EVER crossed my mind (nat even once) that, "oh, gee! i get it now! it's those dumb women that are the problem!" because it isn't hard to have a shred of fucking empathy and realise that people have free will, and you aren't entitled to anything, ESPECIALLY NOT PEOPLE. I cannot stress this enough,
INCELS THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO PEOPLE. HUMAN BEINGS
I don't care how much you think men get rejected more than women do (not true at all), or if society supposedly just made them this way (re: people have free will), or any justification you have to be nice to incels, THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT. THEY SHOULD LEARN TO TREAT PEOPLE AS HUMANS, NOT AS SEX TOYS.
tl;dr, if you're an incel, disrespectfully fuck off and die.
- blakeus12
I think the article that people were posting about had a stance of "you shouldn't have a concept of an inherent/essential stratification of sexual 'value' amongst men [or anyone], because that is the same idea that fuels incels".
Most people who are sexually frustrated should be reachable with assertions like "no one is universally unfuckable", "attractiveness is subjective and heavily based on personality", "there's a flip side of people who won't consider you, which is people you wouldn't consider", "there is no one who is objectively better to date, only people who are subjectively better for you" and "there is no perfect match for you, everyone in this world and it's okay to be short of perfect". If they don't accept any of this, then they have chosen to be horrible on the inside and should be pilloried as such.
It's also worth saying that the internet makes this worse. If your reference point is the people around you that you interact with, it's more likely that you'll adapt to them. If your reference point is this abstract idea of what relational success looks like, based on images that you do not interact with, backed up by a bunch of stories about other people's relational failures or non-starters, you're more likely to develop a self-hating nihilistic approach to your own sexuality.