HOW ARE WE DOING YALL?? I Know a lot of yall are going through it rn. NO CRACKERS ALLOWED, THEY WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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    3 days ago

    other then soviet history

    Not sure, while most people do have a negative view of corn-man-khrush because of the secret speech thats were most of the criticism ends

    I dont see people talking much of the failures of brezhnev like backing ethiopia or they blame like 90% of the sino-soviet split on Mao

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      failures of brezhnev like backing ethiopia

      Ok, I see regarding the 1980 Ethiopia famine (jeez, a lot of ML-on-ML infighting in the 80s, not only in Cambodia, but Ethiopia as well)

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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        3 days ago

        the ethiopia backing is bad because in one part Somalia became a socialist ML state before them and was the USSR ally in the horn, when the Ogaden war happen, the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn and Also with the Cubans lead an intervention to help ethiopia causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

        as a punitive measure the Derg did ethnic cleasing with cuban support in the Ogaden region

        • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 days ago

          the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn

          Didn't Somalia start the war and have irredentist (national chavunist nation-state expansionist) plans, tho? That's what I've heard, as an overview of events, at least in Wikipedia

          causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

          Apparently, in response to the Ogaden genocide, didn't the Ogaden refugees displace the local Ishaq tribe in Somali and create militant orgs to crack down upon them, which was the spark of the civil war that caused the end of socialism

          Then again, I repeat, take it with a grain of salt, since I've read it from wikipedia

          I haven't read much other perspectives on Somalia and Ethiopia

          • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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            3 days ago
            1. to me i see it as a national unification struggle similar to the DPRK, Ethiopia took over the Ogaden region around 60-80 years during Menelik II's conquests which were backed by imperialist power like France and Britain to have an allied control the interior of the Horn and even helped them put doing independist movements like the dervish movement

            2. i did simplified the ogaden war to civil war but yes the refugee crisis did play a part in the somalian civil war

            also i forgot during the ogaden war cuba and the ussr supported the Derg in the Eritrean War of Independence which was also bad

            also most of what i know is from Horn of africa Leftists which seem to know their stuff