HOW ARE WE DOING YALL?? I Know a lot of yall are going through it rn. NO CRACKERS ALLOWED, THEY WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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    3 days ago

    the ethiopia backing is bad because in one part Somalia became a socialist ML state before them and was the USSR ally in the horn, when the Ogaden war happen, the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn and Also with the Cubans lead an intervention to help ethiopia causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

    as a punitive measure the Derg did ethnic cleasing with cuban support in the Ogaden region

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      the USSR abandoned its old ally over ethiopia who was the stronger power in the Horn

      Didn't Somalia start the war and have irredentist (national chavunist nation-state expansionist) plans, tho? That's what I've heard, as an overview of events, at least in Wikipedia

      causing Somalia to lose the war and try to search for new allies eventually leading to the end of socialism in somalia and the collapse of the country.

      Apparently, in response to the Ogaden genocide, didn't the Ogaden refugees displace the local Ishaq tribe in Somali and create militant orgs to crack down upon them, which was the spark of the civil war that caused the end of socialism

      Then again, I repeat, take it with a grain of salt, since I've read it from wikipedia

      I haven't read much other perspectives on Somalia and Ethiopia

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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        3 days ago
        1. to me i see it as a national unification struggle similar to the DPRK, Ethiopia took over the Ogaden region around 60-80 years during Menelik II's conquests which were backed by imperialist power like France and Britain to have an allied control the interior of the Horn and even helped them put doing independist movements like the dervish movement

        2. i did simplified the ogaden war to civil war but yes the refugee crisis did play a part in the somalian civil war

        also i forgot during the ogaden war cuba and the ussr supported the Derg in the Eritrean War of Independence which was also bad

        also most of what i know is from Horn of africa Leftists which seem to know their stuff