i was thinking last night about how sad it is that the main content out there for our young men to consume is basically reactionary dumbasses interviewing celebs or athletes or whatever. i was thinking it would be cool if a podcast existed that was just like regular dudes and getting their thoughts on masculinity, the family, relationships etc

the types of topics young men might be interested in and look to their fathers for guidance but not everyone has that, or some fathers are shitheads

is there anything like that out there? and if not would anyone be interested in recording some interviews and seeing if its any good?

i was thinking about trying to come up with like 3-4 questions to start as a template to ask everyone then following the conversation and seeing where it goes from there

i also just had a high abv beer and have adhd so i might never follow up on this lol

  • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    I think I'm saying the opposite of that: there's no way to build relationships without learning to be a good person and understanding your social situation. It's not some guarantee of anything, and you don't measure goodness backwards by companions. Being good is just 1 of the prerequisites to having happy companionships. Sorry if it sounds like I'm flipping cause/effect or the measurability here; I'm not.

    There are of course people who desire to have a relationship with misogynists (to some extent, otherwise a lot of famous men would never have had children), but the best solution to being happy and having happy companions is being a good person (among other things, because of course it's complex with desires/attraction/social expectations). That's my point.

    Edit: removed 'ticket' as a phrase because it is not useful to my point and the conversation to adopt the terms of the 'target group ' when their position is the problem. Also I guess my point originally was to emphasize that men frustrated with a lack of companionship/relationships and searching for "answers" are almost definitely in need of learning to be a good person first. And you can't build a pipeline to "good person status" out of podcasts discussing 'getting girls'.

    There are definitely people who want relationships, aren't shitty, and are lacking companionship. These people don't need that sort of podcast, but something else to help with e.g. social experiences or relating to others. This is some good stuff that should be made. But the original post I replied to was insinuating it as a leftist pipeline. That's not what a podcast focussed on already good people would be.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      8 hours ago

      Also I guess my point originally was to emphasize that men frustrated with a lack of companionship/relationships and searching for "answers" are almost definitely in need of learning to be a good person first.

      Yeah I agree too, like "learning to be a good person" as in making sure you're not going to be abusive/violent/manipulative to your partner? I think everyone should learn this regardless of whether they are in a relationship or not tbh.

      • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]
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        4 hours ago

        Also just not objectifying your partner but seeing them as fully human. The amount of men that lack this skill is baffling, but it's a direct consequence of a patriarchal society (here referring to the broad phenomenon, not all specific individuals)

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      10 hours ago

      Ok no worries yeah I completely agree with your overall point. That men should be taught not to be misogynists before they have relationships. If successful this will prevent a whole lot of abuse and suffering.

      Awful people build relationships and win friends and all that all the time. Its just that the sort of relationships that result from those are either bad for the people involved or everyone else.

      The world is a sick place and you are right that things should not be this way. This is why its important to be good and support anti-imperialist struggle, as you said.