I read it. The UK has the NHS that doesn't mean they're still not a neoliberal shithole.
That lore entry was designed to be absolutely devoured by left twitter but the actual lore is lib shit. Especially in the context of the genre, it's thoroughly reactionary.
honestly it sounds like everyone has a bone to pick and are looking for any reason to hate on it.
in order to get that context you mentioned about the USSR you have to be as crazy invested as we are. the average person will read this equate trauma team to our current premium model and be like damn at least they have healthcare in X soc dem country IRL. Its a dystopian grim world fucked by capitalism and its made clear that the problem is capitalism and corporations. Just because there isn’t the USSR we wish or a socialist alternative doesn’t automatically make it reactionary? Most of the entries I read are horrific not praising of global capitalist dystopia.
I don’t get the insistence to tear everything down instead of ride on the coat tails they set up for us. Just take the parts that are useful as metaphors and analogies and ditch the other stuff. I dont see how ripping everything into oblivion is beneficial to anyone.
I know it seems like Im defending everything about the game like those twitter weirdos but i genuinely don’t understand the hate. I love the tabletop lore as gruesome as it is and I am really seeing how its been implemented fairly faithfully
Maybe I just didn't play far enough in the story, but I got a distinct liberal bothsides vibe with 'unrestricted capitalism bad', but leftists are terrorists.
Just a hunch, but I'm guessing there's no deus ex twist at the end where the terrorists are false flags.
Too bad I won't find out, I was enjoying it until the le epic keanu moment has soured me on AAA games entirely.
Also their ussr ain't even socdem. It's a neoliberal trade cartel exactly like the eu is today.
I keep hearing that "leftists are terrorists" shit while playing and I keep thinking "Uhhh... Yeah duh. If you're not a terrorist in this city there is seriously something wrong with you."
from what I understand the government has a strong propaganda apparatus and isn’t trust worthy a good example is how they exaggerate the dangerousness of nomads as blood thirsty murderers (and dont talk about how most of them rebuilt the cities in america and are highly educated or loyal etc.) and don’t talk about the fact the previous year 30% the population of the city dropped apparently biggest in 21st century. Idk it seems like the “terrorist” angle was obvious to me that its a label put on people the government doesn’t like but sure i guess thats fair if someone is uninitiated could definitely see that.
I want a duel between the guy who wrote this and the guy who wrote about the Soviet Union being good in-universe
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Once again commenting to point out that cyberpunk's 'USSR' is an EU-style capital cartel that formed after the soviet union.
but if you read the entry they talked about socialized medicine still being there and that’s what they praised
I read it. The UK has the NHS that doesn't mean they're still not a neoliberal shithole.
That lore entry was designed to be absolutely devoured by left twitter but the actual lore is lib shit. Especially in the context of the genre, it's thoroughly reactionary.
honestly it sounds like everyone has a bone to pick and are looking for any reason to hate on it.
in order to get that context you mentioned about the USSR you have to be as crazy invested as we are. the average person will read this equate trauma team to our current premium model and be like damn at least they have healthcare in X soc dem country IRL. Its a dystopian grim world fucked by capitalism and its made clear that the problem is capitalism and corporations. Just because there isn’t the USSR we wish or a socialist alternative doesn’t automatically make it reactionary? Most of the entries I read are horrific not praising of global capitalist dystopia.
I don’t get the insistence to tear everything down instead of ride on the coat tails they set up for us. Just take the parts that are useful as metaphors and analogies and ditch the other stuff. I dont see how ripping everything into oblivion is beneficial to anyone.
I know it seems like Im defending everything about the game like those twitter weirdos but i genuinely don’t understand the hate. I love the tabletop lore as gruesome as it is and I am really seeing how its been implemented fairly faithfully
Maybe I just didn't play far enough in the story, but I got a distinct liberal bothsides vibe with 'unrestricted capitalism bad', but leftists are terrorists.
Just a hunch, but I'm guessing there's no deus ex twist at the end where the terrorists are false flags.
Too bad I won't find out, I was enjoying it until the le epic keanu moment has soured me on AAA games entirely.
Also their ussr ain't even socdem. It's a neoliberal trade cartel exactly like the eu is today.
I keep hearing that "leftists are terrorists" shit while playing and I keep thinking "Uhhh... Yeah duh. If you're not a terrorist in this city there is seriously something wrong with you."
from what I understand the government has a strong propaganda apparatus and isn’t trust worthy a good example is how they exaggerate the dangerousness of nomads as blood thirsty murderers (and dont talk about how most of them rebuilt the cities in america and are highly educated or loyal etc.) and don’t talk about the fact the previous year 30% the population of the city dropped apparently biggest in 21st century. Idk it seems like the “terrorist” angle was obvious to me that its a label put on people the government doesn’t like but sure i guess thats fair if someone is uninitiated could definitely see that.
There's no way the game is adding computer logs for the benefit of Left Twitter.
Critical support for the fictional future-set USSR.
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