• WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I want a duel between the guy who wrote this and the guy who wrote about the Soviet Union being good in-universe

    • read_freire [they/them]
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      Once again commenting to point out that cyberpunk's 'USSR' is an EU-style capital cartel that formed after the soviet union.

      • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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        but if you read the entry they talked about socialized medicine still being there and that’s what they praised

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          I read it. The UK has the NHS that doesn't mean they're still not a neoliberal shithole.

          That lore entry was designed to be absolutely devoured by left twitter but the actual lore is lib shit. Especially in the context of the genre, it's thoroughly reactionary.

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            honestly it sounds like everyone has a bone to pick and are looking for any reason to hate on it.

            in order to get that context you mentioned about the USSR you have to be as crazy invested as we are. the average person will read this equate trauma team to our current premium model and be like damn at least they have healthcare in X soc dem country IRL. Its a dystopian grim world fucked by capitalism and its made clear that the problem is capitalism and corporations. Just because there isn’t the USSR we wish or a socialist alternative doesn’t automatically make it reactionary? Most of the entries I read are horrific not praising of global capitalist dystopia.

            I don’t get the insistence to tear everything down instead of ride on the coat tails they set up for us. Just take the parts that are useful as metaphors and analogies and ditch the other stuff. I dont see how ripping everything into oblivion is beneficial to anyone.

            I know it seems like Im defending everything about the game like those twitter weirdos but i genuinely don’t understand the hate. I love the tabletop lore as gruesome as it is and I am really seeing how its been implemented fairly faithfully

            • read_freire [they/them]
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              Maybe I just didn't play far enough in the story, but I got a distinct liberal bothsides vibe with 'unrestricted capitalism bad', but leftists are terrorists.

              Just a hunch, but I'm guessing there's no deus ex twist at the end where the terrorists are false flags.

              Too bad I won't find out, I was enjoying it until the le epic keanu moment has soured me on AAA games entirely.

              Also their ussr ain't even socdem. It's a neoliberal trade cartel exactly like the eu is today.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                I keep hearing that "leftists are terrorists" shit while playing and I keep thinking "Uhhh... Yeah duh. If you're not a terrorist in this city there is seriously something wrong with you."

              • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                from what I understand the government has a strong propaganda apparatus and isn’t trust worthy a good example is how they exaggerate the dangerousness of nomads as blood thirsty murderers (and dont talk about how most of them rebuilt the cities in america and are highly educated or loyal etc.) and don’t talk about the fact the previous year 30% the population of the city dropped apparently biggest in 21st century. Idk it seems like the “terrorist” angle was obvious to me that its a label put on people the government doesn’t like but sure i guess thats fair if someone is uninitiated could definitely see that.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      I was thinking of getting it because I like the aesthetic but then I saw a clip of it on digital foundry's YouTube channel running at 720p 15fps on a PS4. Then it crashed right afterwards. Also their "minimum recommended specs" for 1080p on PC are only actually good for 720p 30fps on low settings. It's good because I don't have the money anyway haha.

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Wait, I thought chuds were supposed to hate it because of that trans poster or whatever

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            Chuds liked it again because a bunch of libs mad at the game by accusing it of making commodities out of trans people, rather than recognize that it's the setting of the game that has commodified trans people.

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              4 years ago

              accusing it of making commodities out of trans people, rather than recognize that it’s the setting of the game that has commodified trans people.

              its ok the women in my game only wear tiny bikinis because magic

              • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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                the game presents the in-game objectification as what it is: objectification for the sake of advertising shitty products. I never quite picked up that it's an endorsement or making excuses like that. somewhere around half of the in game advertising is sexual, the society in-game has a wider view of gender expression than now, so capital being indifferent as always has picked up on that and expanded its cultural offerings

                maybe I'm giving the game too generous of a read, but that's what I was trying to get at

                also it's very likely a column A column B situation where the game is engaged in the same objectification that it's presenting in a future dystopia

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                  4 years ago

                  they literally used the objectification as real-world advertisement for their game

      • Indifference_Engine [comrade/them, any]
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        4 years ago

        As an alternative may I recommend Ghostrunner? It's basically first-person cyberpunk Hotline Miami crossed with Mirrors Edge, has a dope aesthetic, and actually runs on computers made before next year

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          yo thanks for recommending it, I'm gonna have a blast with this!

          this game has a free demo on steam that's about 20 minutes long, and it's fucking rad, give it a look!

              • Indifference_Engine [comrade/them, any]
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                Teardown is kinda too weird to have any direct competition in the voxel-based demolition and parkour heist genre at the moment, but if you want more voxels to blow the shit out of Sector's Edge is a free to play multi-player fps where you can just fuck up the whole map and also build cover if you're a huge nerd I guess. I haven't had a chance to try it myself yet, but its free so, whatever, you play video games, its not like your time has value.

                Hollow Knight is easier, if you want another beautiful yet depressing 2D metroidvania check out Blasphemous, if you want another game with charming characters and beautiful hand-drawn art that murders you over and over play Hades, if you want Hollow Knight but with gross people instead of cute bugs play any of the Dark Souls games, if you want a mix of all three of those play Dead Cells.

                Those are the games that I'd say are most Hollow Knight adjacent either tonally or gameplay-wise, but we're just ass-deep in indie metroidvanias at this moment so I'm just gonna throw some of my favorites out here:

                Axiom Verge the most NES Metroid game since NES Metroid, it even made the graphical glitches you'd get if the cart wasn't seated properly a plot point

                Hyper Light Drifter like Link to the Past if that game was vaporwave as fuck and also actually hard and also really haunting and beautiful

                Timespinner You got your Chrono Trigger in my Castlevania! You got your Castlevania in my Chrono Trigger!

                Bloodstained: Symphony- I mean, Ritual of the Night legally distinct from any franchise owned by Konami Inc, and also made by one of the many talented people they shitcanned for being too awesome at making video games and not awesome enough at making slot machines (The Switch version runs a little worse than the others though, just FYI)

                Momodora: Reverie Under The Moonlight (I haven't played this one personally yet, but I've heard good things)

                Carrion Did you ever watch The Thing and think to yourself, "man humans do be lookin' kinda tasty though"? Then boy do we have a game for you and a nice padded cell to play it in.

                Oh! And it isn't out yet, but Radio The Universe may be one to keep an eye on, since it's finally coming out after I backed it on Kickstarter seven years ago.

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      Snatcher

      Everything I’ve ever seen suggests Japanese PC emulation is really hard. Is there an easy way to do this?

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I wonder if it was intentional, I get what the joke is (expensive sports car being driven fast gets in tons of accidents). It's just out of place, especially with plenty of anti-capitalist imagery throughout the rest of the game. Then again there's still misspellings and placeholder text all over the fucking place, so some fash chud might have just slipped this in and no one noticed.

    There was already a post on the subreddit of this with the title "Based". Fuck this game and it's shitty fanbase. Steal watchdogs instead, or just play an old GTA

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        gta v is infinitely better than this game. More coherent story, interesting characters, and most importantly it’s fun to play

        Literally the only thing GTA5 did better was the driving (which is, admittedly, unparalleled as far as games that aren't exclusively racing games go). The gunplay is flaming dogshit even for its day, the story is you're an unemotive sociopath who wants to do crime for money and who doesn't want to kill people but also does it constantly without complaint/a greedy dipshit rat having a midlife crisis/an unhinged rapist and serial killer (and also all three are business owners by the end of the game) and you just repeatedly do crime for money, and it's full of transphobic and homophobic bullshit. It may have redeeming elements (like the driving and heists), but it has to be enjoyed in the context of it being an extremely dated, janky, and problematic game.

        I swear the discourse around Cyberpunk 2077 is so fucking insufferable and seems to be 90% based on people repeating other people being wrong on twitter so many times that they're just really mad at an idea formed entirely a priori out of pure Discourse, and the other 10% are people with last gen consoles being mad about performance problems. I've even seen people try to claim fucking Fallout 4 or 76 had better writing and gameplay, which is so patently absurd it shouldn't even merit a response.

      • deadtoddler420 [any]
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        4 years ago

        Honestly, the most shocking thing about this gen is that no open world game tried copying the character switching mechanic. Like I don't love the story of GTA V, but that's a really interesting mechanic for both gameplay and storytelling that should be in more things.

          • deadtoddler420 [any]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, I mean MGSV has that too to a degree. But like having defined characters who have different roles you can swap between during a mission (like one approaching on foot and one providing sniper cover) hasn't really been copied and I think that's a shame. I was really disappointed it wasn't in RDR2, as I felt it really removed a lot of the more tedious stuff from prior GTA games.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        Also GTA 5 has better performance on PS3/Xbox 360 (14 year old consoles) than cyberpunk has on ps4 or Xbox one. I get that cyberpunk is much more graphically intensive, but still it really shouldn't happen

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          I'm even more amazed by Ghost of Tsushima now. That game is some sort of black magic. They made a PS4 exclusive look better than almost any game I've ever seen and it had 2 second load times on a hard drive.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I advocate centrally planned videogame economy. One system that everyone gets and all games are optimized for it and the development studios are publicly funded and unionized.

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                  It's just easier to develop a game if there's a single well maintained piece of hardware. I wasn't even imagining this as a fantasy full communist thing more like a video game version of the USPS but instead of a mailbox you get a game console.

                  It would make sense to have some sort of Unix box that everyone develops the games for that also serves as a general purpose computer that everyone gets for free. Would make development really simple.

                    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Standardization of hardware and open sourcing software like DirectX would solve tons of problems. Opening up the source of proprietary software that everyone uses and investing heavily in those projects could do wonders for compatibility. I think the first step needs to be seizing all MSFT ip followed by AMD, Intel, and Nvidia. Turning all of those into state enterprise would make things much simpler. Yes, ideally eventually totally worker controlled, but you'd need to organize them into one entity first.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            PS4 exclusives always have some stunning visuals. Look at the last of us part 2, gran turismo sport, god of war and even horizon zero dawn for more examples. Whatever support Sony gives exclusive developers is clearly working

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              For real. I bought a slim like 5 years ago on sale and it was totally worth it for shit like Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, and God of War. I mainly just use it as a streaming box, but having the option to play some baller games occasionally is also a huge plus.

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    I pirated this farce of an unfinished trashcan. I hate it and can't stop playing, even though I don't enjoy it.

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      I keep playing because I'm excited to see how fucking bad it gets. The stealth is basically unplayable and the game just doesn't work when you try and okay it. I just recently replayed Dishonored and God damn is the difference night and day. Cyberpunk just feels like a Unreal Engine demo game. NONE of the mechanics work even to the bare minimum standards for games. The story is just complicated nonsensical drivel, and the world feels like a cheap porno ripoff of Bladerunner.

      Fuck this game.

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        Maybe reading the reddit posts about how bad it is keeps me coming back. I don't know. I just can't stop. The false advertising is so bad I can probably finish the game and still get a refund lmao.

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          It's DRM free if you got it on gog, so just refund and keep the offline installer.

          • wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I'm a console peasant. When I order components to build a machine myself it's not a computer :stalin-shining:

                  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    "Though my playstation doesn't work anymore, the thought of the developer allowing a cyberpunk game to take over and destroy your console really added to the world and fully immersed me in the environment that they worked so hard to create."

                    9.3/10 IGN not enough vaseline smeared all over the screen

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Definitely refund it asap then lol, the console version isn't even playable as a joke. Holy shit my way too expensive computer can barely even run it without overheating and it doesn't even look good.

              If you want a pretty console game get Ghost of Tsushima.

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                the console version isn’t even playable as a joke.

                "What do mean 720p 15-30fps with constant crashes isn't playable! CDPR said this is satisfactory performance in the advert and they would never lie!!!1111"

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I hate it and can’t stop playing, even though I don’t enjoy it.

      That reminds me of when I played that homefront game. Despite the ovious bad story (North Korea invading the US) it was full of bugs and kept crashing my PS3. But I just couldn't stop playing it for some reason. Oviously cyberpunk is not that but but still the same feelings

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      The le epic keanu moment got me to put it down. I had low expectations and it was worse than that

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        ive been playing it because a friend bought it and has library sharing with me

        the keanu thing is even worse than i thought. i thought he'd be a one-off character who does his thing, dies, is le epic gamer wholesome 100 or whatever and then he fucks off.

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        the entire story is literally about him now. i have no idea if the rest of the game is gonna be like this but he has invaded my mind and physically abuses me in my bedroom at night. im not even joking. that's what the game's story is at the point im at now.

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          Lol yep that's exactly where I quit. Was whining about it in the megathread last night and this morning

          Playing the original deus ex now instead

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          The dialogue is abysmal, he's a terrible antihero and they had his nonsensical anti-capitalist terrorist character come from a grunge band in a fucking cyberPUNK game. Noted anti-capitalist genre grunge rock, in 2023.

          Also that 10 minutes of john wick sim in the interlude is some of the worst gameplay I've ever experienced in any video game I've ever played.

          My take is the designers watched the press F to pay respects scene in cod and asked themselves how they could do something that banal but stretch it into an hour of gameplay.

          Btw the rest of the story will be about him. The narrative arc feels pretty much lifted straight from a deus ex game and that's how they usually flow.

  • Sovietreach [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    There's no way this is a reference to "1350" or whatever. This is just a little factoid by a copy writer.