i've talked to left and right wingers in person about this and most seem to agree with this concept or contributed to it. at the vaguest level it's perceived as two groups, the neoliberals/neocons and the populists. the populists have a left (berniecrat, demsoc) and right (trumpian, nazbol-lite) wing. the neos are all the old guard repubs (mitch) and centrist/corporatecrats. at their most basic understanding of this they believe the populists are trying to help the people while the neos only care about the markets. obviously this struggle is being heavily catalyzed by the 2k checks.

  • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If so, that's what'll make me finally give up electoralism forever. Harris v. Hawley 2024 = pain

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      fuck this is more likely then ever though. Harris/Romney or something to make it worse. Hawley/AOC

      • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Not AOC. It would never be anyone other than another right-winger. There's an economic populist streak in American politics now, largely people with no class consciousness but who recognize that the government should play a role in improving people's lives. The (electoral) Left had a chance to turn that into tangible power, but it failed. Now the Right will try, and they won't share with demsocs. Some of them are calling themselves national populists (napos), which is scary.

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          twas joke. and national populists fuck that makes me think of kaiserreich (ww2 sim hearts of iron 4 mod). that was the first time I had ever seen that ideology by name but it's basically in game alt-history fascism equivilant.

          • Jorick [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I am still waiting for the timelines to merge, so we can have absolutely based countries such as the Union of Britain, the Combined Syndicates of America, and the mf Commune of France. 2021 plz.