cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7802418

Don't forget about the Irish unification of 2024!

    • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      This seems like an opportune time to note that Gene Roddenberry was a Marxist who strongly supported China. He almost certainly thought well of Mao.

    • muddi [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Earth and the Federation was communism. Admittedly an idealist version of it, came about because it was voted in by enlightened voters. But even then the Bell Riots showed that it was capitalism that caused conditions to arise in which the oppressed rose up against the failures of capitalism, and finally end it.

      Not sure if you specifically meant something about Mao, but at least be aware of this. It's the most basic theory of communism that capitalism fails, turns into barbarism, and the working class have no option but to revolt to resolve the crisis.

      • ChicagoTransplant@midwest.social
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I mean specifically that Mao killed millions of people through a combination of ineptitude and taking the lessons from the wars he fought in into government. The Federation is built on principles that run counter to Maoism in important respects like allowing differences of opinion and anti-authoritarianism.

        • muddi [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The Federation is built on principles that run counter to Maoism in important respects like allowing differences of opinion and anti-authoritarianism.

          Do you know what the "mass line" concept by Mao is?

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            you know for a fact that they don't know dick about shit and are proud of it

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          like allowing differences of opinion and anti-authoritarianism

          Getting steamrolled by nazis after inviting them to the table under pompous pretenses of "allowing differences of opinion" isn't even a viable starter for a government. The Weimar Republic comes to mind.

          The in-setting excuse for why the Federation survived at all, shaky as it was, is that it employs cryptofascists already and gives them unchecked privileges to surveil, harm, and murder on a whim to maintain the status quo: Section 31. You might be a fan.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Do you have any argument to back that up that isn't GOMMUNISM VUVULZULA GORILLION DEAD? morshupls

    • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 comes across a lost Earth colony during a survey beyond Federation space; a few generations after its establishment, a group of religious zealots take over the operations of the colony, creating a feudal society in which power is held by a select few "holy" families and the vast majority of colonists are little more than slaves. How would Kirk and crew handle this situation?

    • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Lol really ticked off the tankies. Don't tell them starfleet hq is... in America!

      edit: sorry, I have been informed tankies' localization actually has star fleet headquartered in... San Fransokyo from Disney's Big Hero Six?