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  • UwUinator [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    nothing. if you read it, buy into it, and internalize it, then just accept that you're not a member of the proletariat revolutionary class. that's its whole thesis.

    edit: here it is from the actual book (that most people who tell you to read it haven't fucking read)

    The actual history disproves the thesis that in settler Amerika "common working class interests" override the imperialist contradictions of oppressor and oppressed nations when it comes to tactical unity around economic issues. The same applies to the thesis that supposed ideological unity with the Euro-Amerikan "Left" also overrides imperialist contradictions, and hence, even with their admitted shortcomings, they are supposed allies of the oppressed against U.S. Imperialism.

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    The thesis we have advanced about the settleristic and non-proletarian nature of the U.S. oppressor nation is a historic truth, and thereby a key to leading the concrete struggles of today. Self-reliance and building mass institutions and movements of a specific national character, under the leadership of a communist party, are absolute necessities for the oppressed. Without these there can be no national liberation. This thesis is not "anti-white" or "racialist" or "narrow nationalism." Rather, it is the advocates of oppressor nation hegemony over all struggles of the masses that are promoting the narrowest of nationalisms - that of the U.S. settler nation.

    bear in mind that the whole point of the book is applying labor aristocracy to the treatment of non-whites by whites (Euro-Amerikan) by viewing non-whites as an effectively colonized oppressed nation. so when he says "Self-reliance and building mass institutions and movements of a specific national character", he's talking explicitly about forming a breakaway ethno-nationalist movement.

    • protochud [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      is the book 100% supposed to be read that way? i think the subtitle is purposefully "the mythology of the white proletariat" with emphasis on the mythology. that there's a level of unlearning that the white proletariat must work through before achieving any revolutionary character. they must first account for the absolutely bloody foundation they stand on before moving on. otherwise, their own mythology will keep mystifying their struggle

      edit: for example, he critiques early union activity in america and points out that they needed to account for imperialism for long term success. if he was just being a wrecker, his conclusion in that part would be something like "lol, white people bones are bad for organizing"

        • protochud [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          “Self-reliance and building mass institutions and movements of a specific national character”, he’s talking explicitly about forming a breakaway ethno-nationalist movement.

          ooof, big stretch.

          the quotes above only support the point i made. that the white proletariat often forgets to account for imperialism. this is pretty much fact. i mean, did you not see the way warren, someone who some on the left supported, advocated for a green imperialism?

          what he claims kind of aligns with what fanon talks about. that a de-colonial liberation struggle needs a national character to unite oppressed peoples. i agree with this point, but i'm happy to be proven wrong if others have examples of revolutions in the so called developing nations that had no national character

      • UwUinator [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        updated my comment. i was just summarizing him but i included quotes about how he advocates abandoning whites as a part of a revolutionary group and pursuing ethnonationalist organization patterns

      • UwUinator [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        updated my comment. i was just summarizing him but i included quotes about how he advocates abandoning whites as a part of a revolutionary group and pursuing ethnonationalist organization patterns