I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      None of Europe is socialist. It is all capitalist.

      The communism you're referring to here seems to be the notion of a stateless, classless society. This is, by definition, incompatible with the existence of a nation-state, so the idea of such a country is oxymoronic and not what any communist would say reflects their politics - not now and not historically. It's a liberal confusion, as liberals know basically nothing about politics and substitute mass media memes and vibes in its stead.

      • anarchost@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Another person here claims Vietnam is socialist, despite being a social democracy. Why is it that one country gets a pass, but the other one does not? Is it really about the labels that nations affix to themselves?

        • Maoo [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Feel free to revisit my original comment in this thread where I go over what is meant by "socialist country". Funnily enough, it's the first comment of mine you replied to, though you didn't address anything I said in it and instead just started asking stupid questions. At least you're consistent!

    • teeforlove [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      you're confusing socialism for social democracy. social democracy comes at the expense of large scale exploitation of the third world through neo-colonial imperialism, so it is still capitalism

    • Vampire [any]
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      1 year ago

      Marx uses the words Socialism and Communism pretty much interchangeably (Engels a little less so). But Europe hasn't been either since about 1990