I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    Rightful criticism of a known CIA front org is the same thing as Nazi persecution of Jewish people is one hell of a take

    Seriously, get a fuckin grip

    • anarchost@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Both you and the Nazi will point to any name they can associate with the source of a document, and use it to claim it should not be taken seriously. The only difference is that they call it removed globalism, and you call it bourgeois westerners.

      Are you denying the existence of the 10 principles? If you are not, are you complaining about the translation?

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
        ·
        1 year ago

        The only difference is that they call it removed globalism, and you call it bourgeois westerners.

        Yeah that’s kinda the fundamental crux of the inherent difference between those groups you dumb fuck lmao, do you even read what you're typing

        "Checking sources is Nazism actually" lmao you clueless child, get a grip and stay in school

      • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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        1 year ago

        Are you denying the existence of the 10 principles?

        Yes, I am.

        If you are not, are you complaining about the translation?

        Also yes.

        So I tried to find a different translation. I spent about 10 minutes on google looking for a different translation or at the very least more context about these alleged "10 principles". It seems like there is only one translation in existence, which I find to be very odd. The text as you've presented it is not long nor particularly difficult, so it shouldn't be difficult to translate. I would assume, then, that more than one person would have produced a translation and posted it to the internet, at least if the original korean text were widely available. And if these "10 principles" were official dprk policy, surely the korean text would be easily found.

        So why can I only find one translation? Maybe you can help me out here. Can you find another translation for me please? I'll also accept the original text in korean if that's easier.

        • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Hey @anarchost@lemm.ee, let's keep the conversation public, buddy. I've copied your dm to me below:

          That's a great stance to take! After all, the 10 principles are so ridiculous that if they were true, you'd have to condemn them outright, correct?

          Just give me the original text in korean or a different translation of them. Please?

          • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Two more dm's from this creep:

            Do you feel the need to have an audience to keep talking? I'm not a big fan of debate bros, personally. I would rather talk about ideas, and you are part of a server known for harassment and brigading, so I think DMs are more appropriate!

            As I understand it, your stance is now that unless you can find it written down by the source, it never happened... If that is the case, do you also believe Hitler never ordered the Holocaust?

            I'm so honored to have been among the group of people who got asked that shitty gotcha about Hitler.

            Anyway, don't bother talking to this idiot! They're not worth the effort.

            • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
              ·
              1 year ago

              oh my god is the whole thing not even real?

              and keep posting his dms, he's been doing it instead of engaging with the post.

              and welcome to the "apparently a nazi for questioning the CIA" club