Sorry, I know debatebro-ism is the 12th type of liberalism :denguin:

Disappointed by Wolff tbh. He's too moralizing, comes off as a Christian Socialist. He's also long winded, yeah I know it was a live debate but he should've been able to make his points more focused. He also hangs on to dead ends (Socialism's definition isn't amorphous, Mondragon is good, etc.) which he doesn't need to. He basically rolls over to Destiny's weird hostility to using history and class relations to explain modes of production, doesn't put enough emphasis in them as processes instead of things that people just enact one day.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm not disagreeing.

        On a more serious note one of the reasons the far right is so successful is that they have boiled their ideology down to a few really dumb, but also simple, easy to understand and memorable soundbites. The left could benefit from having some of that.