what does that have to do with what I said and what billionaires who fled russia support him? Чичваркин? hes not relevent in the slightest. Navalny as a personality has little to do with the proletarian nature of the anti-putin movement. The guy is a powerless figure-head that the movement is unified around not some director giving orders to a bunch of secretive lackeys.
its a highly broad coalition of people unified only in being opposed to putin but in general are in favour of more decentralization, localism, regionalism, anti-censorship, anti-clericalism, and secularism. in the short term, having navalny moved to a hospital (done), having navalny unarrested (ongoing), having putin removed from power (far off). There are specific sections of the coalition like "Leftists" who care about socio-economic issues, welfare, and anti-oligarch stuff, "Nationalists" who want less illegal immigration, subsidies to caucuses, or kowtowing to religious extremists like Kadyrov, "Liberals" who care about normalizing relations with The West, Democracy, Human Rights, not having a war in Ukraine, and medium or small business desires. Navalny generally appeals to all members of these groups but usually leans Liberal and people can care about multiple aspects. Speaking of what the government would look like after a revolution its hard to say, It would most likely end up looking like Iran after their revolution where it could've definitely ended up looking like many different regime types, left or right wing.
damn, I guess karl marx wasn't actually for change when he supported the nationalists and liberals in the revolutions of 1848. Don't know why he even bothered leaving his home at the time
if you think the presence and absense a monarchy is the only determiner of class relations in a country you're being obtuse and theres a reason why Marx called those who deny the value of reforms "revolutionary phrase-mongers"
Okay, late feudalism then, sorry for using shorthand. What would change in class relations under navalny? New faces on top of corporations? Does he want to investigate yandex exploitation? Or that is shining Silicon Valley company, which cannot do corruption by being private in the first place?
Yandex is in a very strange position since it has to cooperate with the government and has a strange property structure. If I we're to guess what would happen under a navalny government I guess he would probably limit military spending, increase welfare, and push for policies which favour small and medium sized businesses (especially those in high tech sectors). This would put him directly at odds with the Siloviks of russian society who benefit heavily from the Military-Industrial complex. In order to succeed he would likely have to either moderate himself to gain support from the present oligarchs in russia to kick out the siloviks or he would have to make a clean sweep of the russian socio-economo-political situation to structure society in favour of his view which seems highly unlikely. Russian society essentially resembles Fascist Italy and its corporatism when it comes to how the country operates which took a world war to overthrow and up-end. Either way its not for me to decide, I'm not russian.
what does that have to do with what I said and what billionaires who fled russia support him? Чичваркин? hes not relevent in the slightest. Navalny as a personality has little to do with the proletarian nature of the anti-putin movement. The guy is a powerless figure-head that the movement is unified around not some director giving orders to a bunch of secretive lackeys.
What are their demands? What are the occupations of protestors? Powerless figurehead put in power becomes powerful figurehead
its a highly broad coalition of people unified only in being opposed to putin but in general are in favour of more decentralization, localism, regionalism, anti-censorship, anti-clericalism, and secularism. in the short term, having navalny moved to a hospital (done), having navalny unarrested (ongoing), having putin removed from power (far off). There are specific sections of the coalition like "Leftists" who care about socio-economic issues, welfare, and anti-oligarch stuff, "Nationalists" who want less illegal immigration, subsidies to caucuses, or kowtowing to religious extremists like Kadyrov, "Liberals" who care about normalizing relations with The West, Democracy, Human Rights, not having a war in Ukraine, and medium or small business desires. Navalny generally appeals to all members of these groups but usually leans Liberal and people can care about multiple aspects. Speaking of what the government would look like after a revolution its hard to say, It would most likely end up looking like Iran after their revolution where it could've definitely ended up looking like many different regime types, left or right wing.
So capitalism with a human face, with a dash of privatization of state corporations and nationalism, exact same shit in other words
damn, I guess karl marx wasn't actually for change when he supported the nationalists and liberals in the revolutions of 1848. Don't know why he even bothered leaving his home at the time
I guess there is a difference in supporting liberals against monarchy, and liberals against liberals
if you think the presence and absense a monarchy is the only determiner of class relations in a country you're being obtuse and theres a reason why Marx called those who deny the value of reforms "revolutionary phrase-mongers"
Okay, late feudalism then, sorry for using shorthand. What would change in class relations under navalny? New faces on top of corporations? Does he want to investigate yandex exploitation? Or that is shining Silicon Valley company, which cannot do corruption by being private in the first place?
Yandex is in a very strange position since it has to cooperate with the government and has a strange property structure. If I we're to guess what would happen under a navalny government I guess he would probably limit military spending, increase welfare, and push for policies which favour small and medium sized businesses (especially those in high tech sectors). This would put him directly at odds with the Siloviks of russian society who benefit heavily from the Military-Industrial complex. In order to succeed he would likely have to either moderate himself to gain support from the present oligarchs in russia to kick out the siloviks or he would have to make a clean sweep of the russian socio-economo-political situation to structure society in favour of his view which seems highly unlikely. Russian society essentially resembles Fascist Italy and its corporatism when it comes to how the country operates which took a world war to overthrow and up-end. Either way its not for me to decide, I'm not russian.