i kinda disagree. he didn't let vaush do any bad faith interpreting or skewing actuality, and used the typical debate bro shit against him, complete with barely letting him get in a word, and forcing him to stop dialogue. i think that's how people who watch this shit judge what a winner is.

he also didn't educate anyone on anything, it was basically him shouting him down and promoting his own channel.

the real losers were us for watching it.