• usurp [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Should the workers be disarmed, says nothing about private gun ownership.

            • usurp [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              And most American gun owners are unchangeable reactionaries. Unironically China has the best gun policy in the world.

                • usurp [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm not against guns perse but the vast majority of gun owners should have their guns confiscated. I don't want to disarm leftists, I'm cool with comrades having guns, however I don't want cops, the right wing, or kids to have access to them among many other groups. I've been through a school shooting, there's literal bullet holes in the walls outside my apartment, I don't like guns and want to live in an unarmed society. Stop acting like Karl Marx saying the workers should not be disarmed is a call for every dick and harry and to be packing. Literally the same argument constitution apologist use to defend not giving up their private property.

                    • usurp [none/use name]
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                      4 years ago

                      Don't fucking compare banning guns to Rhodesia or Nazi Germany. They did not ban private gun ownership, in fact gun ownership is a symptom of capitalist society. Maybe Marx thought the need for the working class to arm itself was necessary but he also thought England, Germany, and France was where communism was gonna first emerge. I know this site can't say it so I'll say it, MARX WAS WRONG ABOUT GUNS. He got a lot of stuff right, but a single sentence about the workers not surrendering firearms should not be misinterpreted as a full endorsement of private gun ownership, if anything it promotes the creation of a communist militia to fight the private gun owners and the state that upholds their rights.

                      I think balkanization for the US would be good, I don't think it would result in dozens of mini nazi germanies and south africas emerging. I think it would result in the south becoming a black majority state, I think it would result in indian territory gaining full autonomy, I think mexico would receive the land that was stolen from them historically, I think canada would balkanize along with the us and make the border mores porous, I think all that non inner continental territory we stole would all become independent and get a lot more money from china than it ever did from the usa, I think the threat of a second confederacy would be nonexistent thanks to blacks in the country not ever going to take that shit again. This isn't optimism, I think it would still take a bloody war to create this, but the end result of banning guns might be this and I would take that and 100 wacos if it meant the destruction of the United States. Also Lee Carter is a red haired shit who has the political power of Bernie Sanders, fuck electorialism.

                        • usurp [none/use name]
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                          4 years ago

                          THE THING MARX GOT RIGHT WAS THE ABOLITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY! you yourself said a gun is private property. I'm sure this site agrees that meat and cars should be banned, is that not idealism? I don't think the state should give up it's guns so long as the state is ran by the workers, to me that means military. Can you not understand that?

                          (real nice of you to edit your comment after I reply, still didn't even edit out the part about private gun owners, I don't hate you but fuck just think about what private property is please)

        • usurp [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I personally think it would take a civil war to disarm the American people. Too engraved in the culture. So I guess we gotta live with daily mass shootings.