The election itself being horse shit was a really early part of my radicalization at age 9 or so, but aside from his reputation as being incredibly boring during the Clinton years, doing some appearances on Futurama and seeming to care about global warming, I don't know much about the dude, oh and he invented the internet of course. Are we still getting a war on terror? I don't really see Iraq getting invaded in this timeline. I dunno. Guess away!

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    Probably the US healthcare system would be less nightmarish due to pushing towards Medicare expansion (more coverage, more people) rather than the ACA method, and the current solvency issues for Medicare and Social Security would have been largely avoided.

    Protections for the LGBT community would have been a lot stronger, DADT would have been repealed, marriage equality almost certainly would have been passed in the lame duck or in his second term.

    Iraq war may not have occurred, Yemen and Afghanistan being the primary targets.

    More of a focus on the climate and a push for renewables and hybrid vehicles. Sensible legislation which would not have led to the ballooning of SUV sizes and the nightmare of CAFE

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      This was more or less how I'd guessed but also doubted it could go that well. I've always suspected 2000 was THE hinge point everything going totally to shit, but it seemed a bit lib

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        8 months ago

        Realistically, everything still would be fucked, but the pressure valves would have blown so it would kinda just be neoliberal austerity malaise forever

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    I think 2000 is the border between when all of the neoliberal timebombs had been set, and when we were aware of how bad the situation was: most easily measurable in that no one said “1996 is the most important election of our lifetime” and honestly meant it.

    We’d have bought ourselves a little more time on climate change, but all the contradictions would still be heightening in every other way.

    Richard Holbrooke probably would have been Secretary of State. Larry Summers would have had another term as Secretary of the Treasury. And, oh god, Joe Lieberman.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Cause it was October I watched the 96 election tree house of horror segment on the Simpsons on a run through the good ones of those. It's such a weird watch in retrospect. The "don't blame me, I voted for Kodos' line slaps with the force of Master Hand from Smash, but daaaaang the details of where the both parties are the same idea. Clinton and Dole decide to abandon party politics and build a better nation together before being spaced by Homer. Obviously the Harvard libs wrote the joke how you'd suspect. As someone who is an absolute oaf who wants them both dead, Homer is the hero in this moment to me. I was 5 in 96 and live in a different country. However this does lead to another timeline...what if Dole won in 96 and again in 2000 and was president during 9/11?

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    oh and he invented the internet of course

    in terms of legislation, but not engineering, technically true

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    8 months ago

    There were huge tensions with China, but no one remembers because it happened right before 9/11. You could have an alternate timeline where Gore didn't focus as much on the Middle East but instead partially pivoted to Asia. I think an earlier pivot to Asia would've happened if Gore was in charge and 9/11 was somehow thwarted.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      That doesn't seem too likely. It's not like he was a dangerous radical VP during his 8 years with Clinton.

      • pooh [she/her, any]
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        8 months ago

        And people also forget that Tipper Gore was a socially conservative fundie who was responsible various censorship efforts.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          8 months ago

          Probably because none of that shit mattered to anyone who wasn't Gen x, and that shows how pathetic their problems were.

      • lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        Yeah but they really needed their man in place for the PNAC plan to kick off some regime changes. I don't think Gore would have gone into Afghanistan or Iraq.