• UnironicAntiNatalist [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Plenty of society’s have lived in equilibrium with nature throughout history. Plenty still do. A “humans are the problem” philosophy is total erasure.

      I'm not an eco anti natalist so I don't care about this

      It’s impossible to compare the bad/good of being alive with the null state of non-existence.

      So let me ask you this, say you had the ability to see into the future and you meet a couple who was planning on having a baby, and you saw that not matter what they did that child was doomed to an absolutely horrible life, like pretty close to the worst existence imaginable. You tell the parents this and they respond "It’s impossible to compare the bad/good of being alive with the null state of non-existence, we're having it anyway". Would you think they were doing something wrong? If the answer is "yes" you clearly view the null state of non-existence as morally superior to one of suffering. Even the best parents living under total FALGSC would have some non-0 risk of having a child who'd suffer such a life, so you're subjecting a being to a gamble they didn't agree too by making them.

      Antinatalism is anti-everything.

      Yes. Absence is better than a negative existence.

      • LibsEatPoop [any]
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        4 years ago

        You're purposefully stopping a conscious being from being born. What is wrong with you?

        IMO, we should have as many babies as possible, especially if we're living under FALGSC. Let everyone who can possibly exist experience the joy of being alive.

        • UnironicAntiNatalist [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Okay I’ve heard some good arguments against my beliefs here that took some thought for me to respond to but this comment is dumb.

          By this logic shouldn’t we abolish all family planning? If having babies is really this moral good shouldn’t we just compel all people to reproduce as much as possible?

          • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Oh, get over yourself.

            You're in a death cult. Why are you even a Communist if you don't want anyone people born to experience it in the future?

            • UnironicAntiNatalist [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              Why are you even a Communist if you don’t want anyone people born to experience it in the future?

              I’d like society to be as nice a possible for all the people forced to live in it until we can convince humanity that a our perpetuation is unethical and end it.