I never said anything about the person paying for the healthcare. But that healthcare still has costs, it’s not free, if a person does not desire pointless, humiliating, and often times dangerous “treatments” to try and extend their life by a few days, why should they be forced to?
Again, the person cannot be “killed” because the doctors so desire. The person should have the ability to request that, of their own free will. Because ok, let’s say you’ve sedated them, what’s the difference? They’re not going to spring to life magically, and their family still had to watch them wither away and die and horrible death.
As the cases in Canada prove, it is incredibly easy to coerce desperate people into suicide. That's why, despite completely agreeing with you in theory of the euthanasia, i am absolutely opposed to any implementation of it in practice in capitalism.
I agree, however this is a topic that capitalism has corrupted to almost no fault of euthanasia itself. I’m mostly approaching this from a socialist lens without the pressure of a capitalist profit motive, or supremacist eugenics pressure.
Ok, but we live under capitalism right now. We aren't in the socialist utopia where only people suffering painful terminal diseases choose to end their lives. We have people that choose death because their disability payments aren't enough to cover a halfway decent place to live, let alone all of their other (often higher) expenses. Stop being naive and living in theoryland, you cannot have a program like MAID without the pressures of capitalism, the profit motive, or supremacist eugenics pressures.
I’ll respond when you stop strawmanning my argument. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth about how I love MAID or Canada? Where did I ever bring up the Canadian system or praise it? You’re the only one who brought it up.
If your entire argument revolves around “Canada and capitalist corruption bad therefore insert thing bad”, then you are not engaging in good faith.
Do you think subsidized housing is bad and shouldn’t be advocated for because bad faith actors and capitalists have used it to take advantage of destitute people while getting guaranteed paychecks from the government?
Also theoryland? What the hell do you think theory is?
I never said anything about the person paying for the healthcare. But that healthcare still has costs, it’s not free, if a person does not desire pointless, humiliating, and often times dangerous “treatments” to try and extend their life by a few days, why should they be forced to?
Again, the person cannot be “killed” because the doctors so desire. The person should have the ability to request that, of their own free will. Because ok, let’s say you’ve sedated them, what’s the difference? They’re not going to spring to life magically, and their family still had to watch them wither away and die and horrible death.
As the cases in Canada prove, it is incredibly easy to coerce desperate people into suicide. That's why, despite completely agreeing with you in theory of the euthanasia, i am absolutely opposed to any implementation of it in practice in capitalism.
I agree, however this is a topic that capitalism has corrupted to almost no fault of euthanasia itself. I’m mostly approaching this from a socialist lens without the pressure of a capitalist profit motive, or supremacist eugenics pressure.
Ok, but we live under capitalism right now. We aren't in the socialist utopia where only people suffering painful terminal diseases choose to end their lives. We have people that choose death because their disability payments aren't enough to cover a halfway decent place to live, let alone all of their other (often higher) expenses. Stop being naive and living in theoryland, you cannot have a program like MAID without the pressures of capitalism, the profit motive, or supremacist eugenics pressures.
For fucks sake, Canada has been forcibly sterilizing indigenous women for decades, with the most recent case I can find with a cursory search in 2019. Is this a country you would trust with euthanasia?
I’ll respond when you stop strawmanning my argument. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth about how I love MAID or Canada? Where did I ever bring up the Canadian system or praise it? You’re the only one who brought it up.
If your entire argument revolves around “Canada and capitalist corruption bad therefore insert thing bad”, then you are not engaging in good faith.
Do you think subsidized housing is bad and shouldn’t be advocated for because bad faith actors and capitalists have used it to take advantage of destitute people while getting guaranteed paychecks from the government?
Also theoryland? What the hell do you think theory is?