• FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    I agree in theory that terminally ill people should be allowed to end their lives with dignity, but seeing how it's being implemented in Canada has made me a staunch opponent of it under the current system. On top of MAID being open to those that are essentially just suffering from poverty, they're aiming to open it up to the mentally ill in 2024, and there are groups pushing for it to be open to "mature minors" as well. I don't think we should be focusing on expanding the MAID program until we're able to provide a decent life (food, housing, medical care, accommodations for disabilities, education, etc) to our neglected people before offering suicide.

    I'm going to be a little Anecdote Andy here, but as someone who suffers from depression and has had suicidal thoughts in the past, the idea that I would qualify for euthanasia and that it would be an option terrifies me. In my darkest moments in the past I very well may have taken that option, at a time when I was not in my right mind and it would have been at the very least irresponsible to allow me to make a life-ending decision in that state of mind. This would be a huge barrier to having an open and honest discussion with my healthcare providers if I have it in the back of my mind that suicide through them is an option.

    • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      I agree the Canadian system is extremely disgusting, and that is not what I’m advocating for here at all.

      And while I don’t want to demean you, but depression is not a terminal illness and should not qualify for euthanasia. There are treatments that work, and meaningful ways to make change. Someone with terminal AIDS, cancer, or someone simply at the end of their lives doesn’t have those options.

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        but depression is not a terminal illness and should qualify for euthanasia.

        Just going to assume this is a typo and you meant to say "should not qualify for euthanasia"

        Yea, mental illness shouldn't qualify, but that doesn't stop the government from wanting to expand maid to include it

        Please read the section on eligibility of people suffering solely from mental illness and get back to me thx. This is what people mean when they say MAID is going to be applied to people that it in no way should be.

        • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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          8 months ago

          My bad, meant “should not”, thanks for catching that.

          But again, why do you think that I for some reason love MAID. How is that at all relevant to the conversation. Why do you think MAID defines the euthanasia advocacy argument? Most advocates were disgusted when Canada rolled it out.

          Again, you’re moving the conversation.