Listen to Natsec foreign policy thinktank ghouls try and sell the Great Game to Gen whatever. Funny at times to hear them tie themselves in knots.

Love listening to US IR/natsec/military pods. They just lay it all out there usually, I'm constantly surprised at how honest they are. Guess they know everybody's gaming.

https://player.fm/series/carnegie-council-audio-podcast-2500267/rethinking-american-grand-strategy-with-christopher-mcknight-nichols