Some of yall need to learn about how the CIA infiltrates the left and common bad faith tactics used to divide and conquer Just saying pic.twitter.com/oAul12BtUj— Nick is a Fred Hampton Leftist 🥋 (@SocialistMMA) June 28, 2021
Pretty interesting. A lot of these points have become the norm for any discussion in leftist spheres. How do we combat this?
If your org is sizable and you haven’t had a discussion about what do to with potential police infiltrators than you’ve probably already been infiltrated.
Okay, so now what?
Literally put a tail on the guy and see where he lives, works, is he telling the truth?
I don't doubt the methodology, but you're very quickly running into the Principle-Agent problem. Does every member need to stake out every other member to feel secure? Is treating every mushy liberal take from a new member like evidence of FBI infiltration productive towards growing membership or messaging?
There is, I think, a fundamental challenge in founding, operating, and growing an organization. Understanding that wreckers exist and addressing them when they appear is one thing. But it is hardly the only thing.
This rant seems to take the actual grassroots founding and organizing as a bygone conclusion and zips start to political intrigue.
If you go into an organization thinking "Who is the rat?!" then half the "turn members against each other" playbook is already executed.
That's why this is so effective. If you ignore the problem, they infiltrate and make the organization ineffective. If you go after the problem, you make your organization less effective, and spend a lot of time chasing your own tail. Even if you so get all the infiltrators, you can never be sure, and you spend a lot of time going after them.
Like nearly all things, you have to strike a balance. The right balance will have you spending a lot of time going after infiltrators imo.
Okay, so now what?
I don't doubt the methodology, but you're very quickly running into the Principle-Agent problem. Does every member need to stake out every other member to feel secure? Is treating every mushy liberal take from a new member like evidence of FBI infiltration productive towards growing membership or messaging?
There is, I think, a fundamental challenge in founding, operating, and growing an organization. Understanding that wreckers exist and addressing them when they appear is one thing. But it is hardly the only thing.
This rant seems to take the actual grassroots founding and organizing as a bygone conclusion and zips start to political intrigue.
If you go into an organization thinking "Who is the rat?!" then half the "turn members against each other" playbook is already executed.
That's why this is so effective. If you ignore the problem, they infiltrate and make the organization ineffective. If you go after the problem, you make your organization less effective, and spend a lot of time chasing your own tail. Even if you so get all the infiltrators, you can never be sure, and you spend a lot of time going after them.
Like nearly all things, you have to strike a balance. The right balance will have you spending a lot of time going after infiltrators imo.