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Dune is fuckin incredible and is my favorite book. Try the audiobook if you are having trouble reading it
Why? I just don't get what's the magic. Some white savior failson that fails upward till comanding an army of desert dwellers trying to liberate themselves from colonizers while being led by a GoodColonizer(TM) because plot-need. And don't get me started with the non-need of scifi setting and the plotholes it creates.
Yes, and it was meh because of the reasons I listed.
Oh this misterious backwater planet were is produced the most valued shit on the universe but we don't know how it's made, we just buy it from these desert people because we are an evil all powerful intergalactic empire but we just can't deal with some desert dudes, we really can't put up a shitton of satellites taking photos of every inch of these planet to know where the fuxk the most important thing in the universe is mined or produced from.
We can deal no problem with interestellar travel, but some sand? Oh boy no that's impossible to deal with.
Again, I'm very annoying about sci-fi in general.
Dune was about how Paul was good and only ever did good things.
I'm talking about the first book, it didn't hook me to keep reading the serie, but I think in the next books the dude got power crazy as it was painfully "foreshadowed" in the 1st book, right?
I wouldn't say power crazy. I personally think it's more just about how people aren't supposed to operate at that sort of level of control.
Sure, he's a messiah figure, but I don't think the book is about how this is a good thing or rather just an exploited "prophecy" used to enact a regime change. You can portray something without condoning it.
Yeah, but the messiah thing came all so sudden imo, like a dude who escaped being murdered and found shelter with these desert people and boom 10 years later he's a blue skinned messiah cuz reasons. Idk I didn't get it I guess. The backbone of the story is promising
I didn't really enjoy Dune until the 2nd and 3rd time that I read it. It's such a dense mythology, I feel like the first time going through it you're not really able to wrap your head around the scope of what's going on but also the intricacies of all the interactions between characters. After powering through the book the first time, and then going back and reading it again with this base of knowledge about the world, it was definitely easier to understand.
If you want to have a good first read through, I would see if you could find some spoiler free wiki that gives details about the different characters in their backgrounds, especially one that describes the different political movements like the guild, the bene gesserit, etc. And try to keep in mind, it's more of a political thriller than an action adventure.
I loved the Bene Gesserit (If I'm spelling that right) so that's probably why I was invested in Dune right away. But anyways, I loved hearing about Paul's training from Lady Jessica and the mentats. The fact that everything is run by human computers is very interesting for sci-fi, I love imagining the possibilities of what the human mind can do.
For me what makes Dune excellent is the tension that builds over time because we have an omniscient narrator. We know that Paul and his family are in trouble, we know there's a larger political conflict brewing, we know the Emperor giving Dune as a planet was more of a trap than a gift, we know somebody will betray the Atreides. This is good for keeping the story moving, but also I think it makes the world outside of Arrakis feel larger. Paul and the Atreides are caught up in larger forces that have been in play for centuries. Even at the end when
Paul is a messiah, he recoils at the jihad he helped create. The Fremen army worships him, but the messianic movement has gone out of control. He could not stop it if he wanted.
I haven't read many books that look that far into humanity's future. I appreciate the series' sense of deep time, especially with the tyrant's rule later on (no spoilers but his actions are motivated by extremely long term plans). What will humanity be like a thousand years from now, or ten thousand years from now? With our current hegemonic capitalist system there's no incentive to plan for any future, as now is the end of history to many.
Dune is cool but anything by Ursula LeGuin in her Hain cycle is better.
Deserts are boring, no trees. 2/5 stars would visit again cuz they are in between me and the Andes anyways
But also Dune is a slow burn. If you're really not feeling it, watch the movie coming out this year then read the book.
