I was there, my only contribution was as neutral as I could make it, but I'm truly not sure that was the right way to engage. The main issue in my mind is as follows: it's clearly a morally wrong act that OP committed, but it's also morally wrong (and not constructive) to dogpile a person expressing suicidal ideation and also having recently attempted suicide, for something they knew was wrong and did through poor choices/ignorance and not malice (not an excuse, but background that should inform the response).
Separate from the response to this incident, I think we might need to examine the rules of /c/mentalhealth and maybe the site as a whole in regards to talking about questionably illegal or fully illegal activities. While it's nice to have a space where people can talk about their deeply troubling personal issues with a sympathetically leftist cohort, that post and the engagement it got was really a lot for the community to deal with, and might even attract undue law enforcement/fed eyes on hexbear in the near future. That post was also potentially in violation of comm rule 1, "We are not a crisis service."
I appreciate your proactive action here but I deeply strongly advocate against anyone turning themselves in over this - one, because if we don't want fed eyes on hexbear, we should really avoid someone going to the alphabet boys and saying "hey I did a sex crime on this communist message board", and two, because no commenter committed a sex crime. It's not a sex crime to write words of support to someone in crisis for mahing a shitty non-malicious choice that they regret deeply enough to attempt suicide over. Might be illustrative of a need to self crit, but definitely not any form of crime.
And besides, we're about rehabilitative justice here. If we genuinely believe that, we know that the rehabilitation we can do ourselves with a struggle session about it is more than the rehabilitation that will be given by anyone turning themselves over to the feds over what amounts to far less than what the average NSFW artist probably has public on twitter
yeah that was a super dicey situation
I was there, my only contribution was as neutral as I could make it, but I'm truly not sure that was the right way to engage. The main issue in my mind is as follows: it's clearly a morally wrong act that OP committed, but it's also morally wrong (and not constructive) to dogpile a person expressing suicidal ideation and also having recently attempted suicide, for something they knew was wrong and did through poor choices/ignorance and not malice (not an excuse, but background that should inform the response).
Separate from the response to this incident, I think we might need to examine the rules of /c/mentalhealth and maybe the site as a whole in regards to talking about questionably illegal or fully illegal activities. While it's nice to have a space where people can talk about their deeply troubling personal issues with a sympathetically leftist cohort, that post and the engagement it got was really a lot for the community to deal with, and might even attract undue law enforcement/fed eyes on hexbear in the near future. That post was also potentially in violation of comm rule 1, "We are not a crisis service."
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I appreciate your proactive action here but I deeply strongly advocate against anyone turning themselves in over this - one, because if we don't want fed eyes on hexbear, we should really avoid someone going to the alphabet boys and saying "hey I did a sex crime on this communist message board", and two, because no commenter committed a sex crime. It's not a sex crime to write words of support to someone in crisis for mahing a shitty non-malicious choice that they regret deeply enough to attempt suicide over. Might be illustrative of a need to self crit, but definitely not any form of crime.
And besides, we're about rehabilitative justice here. If we genuinely believe that, we know that the rehabilitation we can do ourselves with a struggle session about it is more than the rehabilitation that will be given by anyone turning themselves over to the feds over what amounts to far less than what the average NSFW artist probably has public on twitter
turning yourselves in to who? for what?