• SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Medical debt is a satanic concept.

    Critical support for Christian comrades.

  • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah, donate to people in need, yeah, good thing they did it, yeah...

    But how is this any different than a feel good story about a private business paying off debt. They allocate 10% of their donations to this program. Or to outreach, its unclear. So, I guess the rest are also going to MASSIVE charities I'm not hearing about? They also donate through an NGO, so theres plenty of tax right offs for someone here.

    Why dont they just buy some congressmen to eliminate medical debt? :whywhywhywhywhy:

    Say whatever about the evangelicals, at least they sincerely believe every insane thing they tell you about the prosperity gospel. Catholics and all our protestant copycats just fucking lie to your face. I read some about the church in N. Carolina. I do like what I hear

    • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      To me it’s a community coming together and pitching in to help their neighbors.
      I don’t really see how they could effectively “buy off a politican” with that money, and I don’t see what one in their pocket would do.
      While this has a concrete effect on hundreds of families.
      The NGO just seems like they already have the infrastructure to locate the people who best need it and buy up the debt.
      Churches aren’t really taxed right? So I don’t see why this would be some write off thing.

      • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I dont think established churches are just communities helping their neighbors. By "buying a politician", I mean why hasnt anything materialized from established churches in the way of structural change. I dont see churches bending over backwards to advocate for socialized healthcare.

        I dont mean that people are using the church donations for a write-off, but could people be using that debt relief NGO mentioned in the article to write off taxes? Isnt the church actively contributing to that NGO ecosystem of "non-profits"? Theyre not a community coming together, they dropped off two massive bags of money to some group that I have to assume didnt pocket some of the donation. And this isnt even in an effort to get people material resources, its too RELIEVE DEBT, something the government can just do.

        And heyre not taxed either, which is something we might have to do if we socialise healthcare :soviet-hmm:

        Maybe I'm grossly misinformed, but until then I will uphold neo-taborite thought :jesus-cleanse:

        • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I mean…all that is true about underlying problems, but it’s not as if this episcopal congregation or the episcopal church at large can force the government to relieve debt. I think they are doing what they can through imperfect means to try and help people.

          • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            it’s not as if this episcopal congregation or the episcopal church at large can force the government to relieve debt

            Then they should shut the fuck up about their donations and advocate for socialized healthcare. Does it matter to tell your fellow christian how many souls you saved? Why not save MORE FUCKING SOULS.

            • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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              3 years ago

              https://www.episcopalchurch.org/ogr/health-care-the-perennial-american-problem/

              https://www.episcopalarchives.org/cgi-bin/acts/acts_resolution.pl?resolution=2009-D048

              Why so negative?