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  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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    3 years ago

    Is punching Nazis authoritarian or anti-authoritarian?

    I know this is reductive but that's the point we have to get to the bottom of this issue.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Punching nazis is what you do when you can't deradicalize them. It's an unpleasant act and in my experience anti fa demos are traumatizing. But when there's immanent harm, you do what you must.

      Like I said, anarchism is anti violence, not pacifist

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        3 years ago

        The issue is that we don't have the luxury of denouncing violence as a blanket position given the reality we face.

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          We do have the luxury. We need to tell stories that affirm our values and ends, which means opposing violence. We also need to oppose imperialism. We can do both.

          Obvs we need to be careful about what stories we tell where, but we still need those stories.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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            3 years ago

            Telling stories will totally stop violent neo-nazis from attacking our comrades.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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                3 years ago

                We need to tell stories that affirm our values and ends

                Telling stories is not a viable method of resisting imperial violence.

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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                    3 years ago

                    So punching nazis is good, therefore some forms of organized resistance against reactionaries is also good?

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      If you punch them in the street, it is neither. If you punch them while they're locked in a jail cell, it is unnecessary.

      WRT capitalists and counter-revolutionaries, if someone is poised to repress you, you fight them, disarming and expropriating them. Once they're expropriated, and don't pose a material threat, do you still need to kick them while they're down?