It's just kinda utopian to be a naturalist in this case. We live in a social context where beauty is sociologically determined and positioned as a desirable standard, and so attempting to emulate any of those standards is pretty normal. Attempting to say that people SHOULD avoid those is utopian/idealistic. Of course pretty much everyone would prefer a society where beauty standards exist for only that which is entirely determined by our choices (like our conduct or learned knowledge). But that social context is entirely alien to all existing ones.
We can now of course argue and fight for a world where beauty is unimportant for relationships, but a self-image which doesn't include beauty (which is definitionally socially determined) is impossible. First, beauty as such would have to disappear for this idealist position to be possible.
Let me know if I'm rambling, been having too many thoughts recently
It seems we're in the minority, but I completely agree.
It's just kinda utopian to be a naturalist in this case. We live in a social context where beauty is sociologically determined and positioned as a desirable standard, and so attempting to emulate any of those standards is pretty normal. Attempting to say that people SHOULD avoid those is utopian/idealistic. Of course pretty much everyone would prefer a society where beauty standards exist for only that which is entirely determined by our choices (like our conduct or learned knowledge). But that social context is entirely alien to all existing ones.
We can now of course argue and fight for a world where beauty is unimportant for relationships, but a self-image which doesn't include beauty (which is definitionally socially determined) is impossible. First, beauty as such would have to disappear for this idealist position to be possible.
Let me know if I'm rambling, been having too many thoughts recently