Yes. It's pretty disorienting rn. I have had to, out of necessity, limit interactions with zionist family and friends.

I have progressive loved ones that are having full breakdowns because their entire ideological framework is collapsing in on itself as it has become impossible for them to ignore the horror (esp. with my prodding). These are pretty insightful and educated people who have wrestled with similar disillusions before. I can only imagine what it is doing in the minds of less politically & historically informed people. I haven't had any in serious conversations with extremely zionist family yet but I can only imagine what they're like considering previous conversations.