• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    ... someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this just sounds like some random local corruption story, right?

    Like, instead of passing & enforcing worker safety laws they just ban the (safe) product? The same type of diseases can workers get from eg processing cotton, flower, cement, and any fine-dusty thing really. And such things can be managed with safety precautions & exhaust filters (to not affect the broader local area over the years of dust buildup).

    The logical exceptions are things like asbestos where even the end product crumbles into dangerous particulates (that are even more irritating/cause serious problems at much lower quantities).

    Then again it really saddens me that we don't invest more into like cellulose based materials (buildings, cutlery, bags, windows, cars, medical equipment, ... limitless potential, can be made sustainable, & has the prospect of doing something good in the long run).

    Also with the same logic Australia could ban other things as well, like cocoa/chocolate imports, much of the fashion industry (dyes), and above all else - fossil fuels.

    As for the replacement materials for countertops - bamboo (pressed & oiled?) is great!

    • ElHexo
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      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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        Oh, so they differ substantially, didn't know that (but makes sense bcs of the variety they produce). I'm not anti-ban (the work itself doesn't seem like it's worth the end product anyway), I would have just expected more regulation (safety, or just a ban in crystalline silica perhaps) instead of an overall ban. But that's just the EU in me talking, a ban is at least much clearer & in this case quicker to get passed.

        Edit: actually safe work Australia already drafted guidelines, I guess they didn't catch on

        Workplace exposure standard for respirable crystalline silica: The eight-hour time weighted average workplace exposure standard (WES) for respirable crystalline silica (RCS) is 0.05 mg/m3. This means that your workers must not be exposed to levels of RCS greater than 0.05 mg/m3 over an eight hour working day, for a five day working week.

        Edit2: EU does have a directive in place but it's not yet implemented into law (like a 'delegated regulation' or a demand to incorporate it in local laws) + its still evolving so no actual limit numbers (or a complete ban) yet. EU directives usually work in such a way that at first they gather industry knowledge & best practices (via mandated reporting) that they then implement into law (more or less strict depending on the end goal, but in administration sense compatible with the current industry capabilities - I'm actually proud of the efficiency & lifecycles of such a system).

  • WaterWaiver@aussie.zone
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    10 months ago

    What are the replacement materials?

    I presume that laminated/coated MDF isn't the same market segment as heavy, dense engineered stones. Perhaps they'll go solid epoxy with no silica filler? That would be more expensive but probably work. I suspect they'll still want cheap fillers however, so non-silica stones might be chosen (but surely most stone dusts are bad?).

    EDIT: Oh dear https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-05/study-finds-safety-concerns-in-engineered-stone-alternatives/103185450

    • wscholermann@aussie.zone
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      10 months ago

      Wood is one option. More maintenance, yeah it can scratch. But it can also be sanded I guess.

      I've also read porcelain is another option.

    • tau@aussie.zone
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      10 months ago

      What are the replacement materials?

      Laminated chipboard/MDF or natural stone mainly, depending on how expensive ones tastes and budget are. Still wouldn't want to be breathing dust from either of those though...

      As another comment suggests stainless steel is another option, or perhaps even expoxied timber/bamboo. These do suffer from aesthetic and durability issues respectively though when it comes to trying to convince people to use them.

      • WaterWaiver@aussie.zone
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        10 months ago

        N.B. Porcelain is a silicate. Clay dust exposure is one of the traditional causes of silicosis, potters are (mostly) taught to clean their workplaces with hoses not brooms.

    • sil@aussie.zone
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      10 months ago

      There’s the acrylic polymer/stone blend like Corian. Though that might be the $$$ option.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    It's a good step to ban this should the the silicosis be a legitimate concern. The rest of the world should follow Australia's lead here. Don't want a repeat of the asbestos situation globally. I still remember attending sone primary and high school classes in pre-fabricated asbestos classrooms in South Africa during the 2000s and 2010s.