I'm ignorant, but this is just full of red flags.

  • atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    ok let's go into detail:

    countless of suicide bombings -> suicide bombings have been a tool out of desperation. if they had an iron dome, or a standing army for that matter, i don't think suicide bombings would happen. even in the oslo accords israel doesn't accept the formation of a palestinian army.

    80% support of the 10/7 massacre -> you can find that percentage and even more in many other countries.

    majority support for hamas -> i don't think hamas is inherently bad at politics. when you compare them with republicans and democrats of the us, they are better at social policies.

    has death sentence for lgbt -> this is what queer palestinians think about october 7. and according to this article the situation is no more different than most countries. this point is in the lists for just one purpose: exploitation of queer people.

    massacred every single person in villages they capture -> i guess they're confusing with iof. the fact that hamas has prisoners is seldom enough.

    sold the land to jews then tried to take back in war -> this is so wrong on so many levels that this being a pivotal point in the matter is astoshing to me. most of the land that was sold was just swamp, and they paid good money for that. and most of those sold land belonged to the jordanian landlords. that land was so miniscule (~3% maybe) and the process was so slow that they had to occupy by force.

    russian and iranian proxy -> there are so many factions with so many different political leanings that even they themselves couldn't gather under an umbrella since (edit: until) the october 7 attack. i'm not saying it's impossible but in a land where is imminent, this doesn't seem likely.

    their founder of state was a nazi collaborator -> again, they're confusing with israel :)

    rejected 5 different 2 state solutions, offered none -> even the best offer didn't include east jarusalem, didn't take into account the settlements and didn't allow for a standing army. who would accept this shit?

    tried to take over jordan -> okay, now i'm convinced that they got palestine and israel mixed up.

    never identified as palestinian before 1967 -> this is just outright lie.

    destroyed lebanon -> i guess this is like that domestic abuse metaphor: do you see what you're making me do? otherwise, i don't have a clue.

    only invention is the suicide vest -> first use was in world war 2 i guess, this is just racism: muslim = suicide bomber.

    converted water pipes donated by the eu into rockets -> let's say for a minute that this is completely true (which it isn't). hamas is not a seperate entity from the gazan population. they don't live in the mountains or anything. when they convert these pipes, they don't get any water, either. but the reason gazans and even palestinians in the west bank don't have water isn't this. it's because of apartheid, concrete covering of water wells, destroying rainwater harvesting equipment, poisoning the acquifer etc.

    holds the world record for most plane hijackings -> i talked about this in the other comment, pflp did hijacked planes in the seventies but i don't think it was more than a handful. and i don't have world leader board for plane hijackings in front of me, so i don't know, maybe?

    supported saddam hussein while taking refuge in kuwait -> context is important for this one because last years of saddam hussein wasn't like his "golden" years. he couldn't gas the kurds that much. he was trying to stay in power among a sea of ambargos. this made his image a little more like a victim. and if i'm not mistaken, he financially supported palestinian resistance. so, it's understandable.

    farfour the mouse -> weird.

    • D61 [any]
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      11 months ago

      o7

      holds the world record for most plane hijackings -> i talked about this in the other comment, pflp did hijacked planes in the seventies but i don't think it was more than a handful. and i don't have world leader board for plane hijackings in front of me, so i don't know, maybe?

      Hijacked a bunch of planes... but how many of the hostages died due to their actions? :thinking emote: