• brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    No, its rooted in Western colonialism, and it's cope to think otherwise.

    • ex10n@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      I've never said western colonialism hasn't had it's negative impacts, but this is grossly minimalizing historical context.

        • ex10n@lemm.ee
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          11 months ago

          Care to elaborate? Your non-point responses are not encouraged in thoughtful debate, but youre welcome to do as you please.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            What they are correctly suggesting is that your thesis is ignoring Israel's context as a settler-colony authored by Britain to enable what amounted to the mass-expulsion of Holocaust refugees from Europe to run an ethnostate in the Middle East that would act as an instrument for its interests.

            The idea of religious conflict being the main element is completely absurd. A truly Jewish state would not forcibly sterilize Ethiopian Jews

            • ex10n@lemm.ee
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              11 months ago

              I never claimed Britans handling of the relocation of Jewish people was perfect, many things could've been handled differently, however the conflict around Jerusalem is much older than you suggest and riddled with religious interests. Religion should not guide modern policy. At most religion should act as, "an opiate of the masses."

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                11 months ago

                That conflict is a fiction invented by zionists that has only the most tenuous analogy to anything in actual history. The small number of Jewish Palestinians who were used as part of the smokescreen are out of the picture at this point, as Israel is overwhelmingly and aggressively white and has no interest is helping either Jewish or Muslim Arabs. The modern state of Israel is not based on those conflicts, there is no causal continuity, that is just a lie you have been fed. It's a white colony that is as connected to that inter-Palestinian conflict as the Nazis were connected to the Arabs of Ancient India, it's just something some racial supremacists conjured up for their fascist mythology.

                Incidentally, get Marx's words out of your mouth if you won't bother to ever actually read him

                • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                  11 months ago

                  "Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised." - Hamas Covenant 1988

                • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                  11 months ago

                  "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory)." - Hamas Covenant 1988

                  https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

                  This is most certainly rooted in religious beliefs.

                    • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                      11 months ago

                      And the definition of Jihad is? Ding ding, you just landed on religious conflict, congratulations 👏

                • ex10n@lemm.ee
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                  11 months ago

                  "They (Jews) were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there." - Hamas Covenant 1988

                  Sounds pretty darn racist to me. The same beliefs are echoed today by neo-nazis.