Damn, good post. Changed my perspetive a bit. (Also thanks for calling me comrade, made me feel warm)
That said, i think the material conditions part of your summation is kind of the core point of why I and others were perplexed by the idea of Hondurus being "western", in spite of the other stuff.
For me, "the west", "the imperial core", and "the global north" are very close to being synonymous in how i understand them. But maybe they shouldnt be. This is why i usually use imperial core though, since it seems the most specific.
Our religions have been westernized, our mode of production is capitalism, our cultural references are western cultural products, our music is dependent on western notions of what is "good" music. The products that we buy and we sell, that we most value are influenced by westernized perceptions of value.
All of these also hold true for Angola, Congo, Kenya, Philippines, and several other countries in Africa and Asia. If everyone's "Western" then it's a meaningless term.
We already know what the answer to this, "Western" is based on race, which is the only reason Latin America is even in the running on being considered Western. But when you look at how ACTUAL Europeans behave and put their value, they don't actually consider Latin America western in any sense at all--and this is because of the other half of their ancestry.
Damn, good post. Changed my perspetive a bit. (Also thanks for calling me comrade, made me feel warm)
That said, i think the material conditions part of your summation is kind of the core point of why I and others were perplexed by the idea of Hondurus being "western", in spite of the other stuff.
For me, "the west", "the imperial core", and "the global north" are very close to being synonymous in how i understand them. But maybe they shouldnt be. This is why i usually use imperial core though, since it seems the most specific.
"western" and "the west" aren't even the same thing. latam is westish in those regards but these countries certainly aren't the hegemonic "the west"
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All of these also hold true for Angola, Congo, Kenya, Philippines, and several other countries in Africa and Asia. If everyone's "Western" then it's a meaningless term.
We already know what the answer to this, "Western" is based on race, which is the only reason Latin America is even in the running on being considered Western. But when you look at how ACTUAL Europeans behave and put their value, they don't actually consider Latin America western in any sense at all--and this is because of the other half of their ancestry.
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You dropped a letter comrade